September 5, 2006
The Mic Is On! It’s Summer Vacation Again!
ME Liz Strauss wrote this at 7:01 pm
It’s Like Open Mic Only Different
Here’s how it works.
It’s like any rambling conversation. Don’t try to read it all. Jump in whenever you get here. Just go to the end and start talking. EVERYONE is WELCOME
The rules are simple — be nice.
There are always first timers and new things to talk about.
Tonight we’re talking summer!
We might also talk about
- summer romances
- summer songs
- summer games and activities
- summer vacations — real and fictional
AND THE EVER POPULAR,
Basil the code-writing donkey.
–ME “Liz” Strauss
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329 Comments to “The Mic Is On! It’s Summer Vacation Again!”





Joe said
Hey Liz,
8:03 and I’m first again???
Joe said
Everybody must be getting that last BBQ in…
Advice Librarian said
Nah, it’s 2 AM here and I’m listening to the BBC World service…
ME Strauss said
Hey Joe!
You’ve made it first. Katie beat you last week. I’m glad you’ve got your record back!
Joe said
Hey AdLib,
Do you have anything like Labor Day over there in the Hindter lands?
ME Strauss said
BBQ,BBC, there must be something else BB???
Advice Librarian said
The other thing I’m doing is emailing support about wokring out the issues with the blog…
Joe said
Yeah Liz, I couldn’t stand for my record of being first to be in jeopardy.
ME Strauss said
Well, Joe,
As I recall, Trisha got here once too I think.
Joe said
Don’t even SAY phpBB…
Go read my post for today, that will explain everything.
Rick said
Hi Joe, AdLib, Liz!
How about BBS? Though I haven’t seen one in years.
ME Strauss said
Hey AdLib!
I know BBQ, BBC and BB King!
Joe said
No, No… I don’t think I came in late twice?!?!?!
Rick said
Do you have any idea what’s wrong with your blog, AdLib?
Ricardo said
Hey all, greetings from Portugal
ME Strauss said
Yeah, Joe, I think Trisha got here once . . . *she said nodding*
ME Strauss said
Hi Rick!
Welcome to summer!
ME Strauss said
Hey Ricardo,
Welcome!
What’s the weather like? Are you on the coast? Is it time for an end of summer romance there?
Ricardo said
we’re living the hottest days now. i live on the beach so I don’t need to travel long (just 2 min walk). But no vacation for me this year
Rick said
Summertime, when the weather is fine….
And dimentia kicks in again. I can’t remember any more of the words, but the tunes waling away in my head.
Or
She wore an
itsby bitsy
teeny weeny
yellow polka dot bikini…
The best part about living in Florida was going to the beach. The whole time I lived there I felt like I was on vacation.
Joe said
I think you mean the end of summer. Don’t you Liz?
Rick said
Hi Ricardo!
ME Strauss said
Rick and Ricardo at the beach drinking Coronas.
Service Untitled - Douglas said
Evening everyone.
I’m here this week.
Rick said
Joe, shhh… Liz is moving to the southern hemisphere. It’s starting to warm up there.
Advice Librarian said
Apparently I’ve had a form script hijack in another part of the site, and in disabling that they inadvertently killed something vital. We’re looking at options now - if I’m lucky they’ve got recent backups from before the hack and considering how little I’ve written lately I won’t lose all that much.
That’s probably a bit of an indictment - my What I did This Summer essay should probably be titles “Slacking off and political blogging”. Since it’s entirely written in Norwegian, I don’t think it would make any sense whatsoever to you lot though
Joe said
Is that Ricky Ricardo? The guy who was married to Lucy?
ME Strauss said
Liz would love that Rick,
Do you think anyone would pay for relocation?
Rick said
Hi Douglas! Hope you had a good Labor Day.
ME Strauss said
Hey Doug!
Great to see you! How’s the summer life of the business channel guru?
Ricardo said
we have “Sagres” and “Super Bock” in here. The best beer in the world
I’ve done a few retreats. It was nice
Joe said
I was listening to Classic Gold from London today, and ALL DAY it was nothing but The Beach Boys…
Surfer Girl.
Rick said
The Air Force paid for mine. Maybe you could enlist? Guess I shouldn’t say that after saying I felt like I was on vacation the whole time I was there, but after growing up with northern Illinois winters, that’s the way it felt.
ME Strauss said
Hey, Joe, I had to go back a ways to get you in first again AdLib and Katie and Wendy have all been there!
Rick said
AdLib,
I haven’t had any security issues yet (as he folds his hands and prays). A script hijack can hit your database too?
Ben Yoskovitz said
Evening everyone! I hope everyone is doing well!
ME Strauss said
Let see, the Beach Boys and the Southern Hemisphere sound fine . . . I’m not sure the Air Force is ready for me.
Joe said
Ok, so I’m not first all of the time, but I try.
Ricardo said
So you’re all from the US? Except AdLib. You’re European right?
Service Untitled - Douglas said
My summer wasn’t too bad. It’s over now as far as I’m concerned.
Hi Rick! Labor Day was good, how was yours?
Hi there Ben!
ME Strauss said
Joe,
You’re the only guy who brought his own alien . . .!
Rick said
Hi Ben! I put in a contender on Where Is Basil.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Ricardo — I’m Canadian.
Rick — I saw. Thanks! We’re getting there. I almost feel like another contest is coming out of this…anyone got a prize to donate? *grin*
ME Strauss said
Hi Ben,
Great to see you!
Looks like something serious going on at Where is Basil!
Rick said
Labor Day was relaxing. The closest I got to constructive work was keeping the baby from turning off the TV when I was watching it.
Advice Librarian said
I’m from Norway, and I’m up waaay past my bedtime, really. And yes, a form hijack can do literally anything to your site - apparently the script I used wasn’t quite as proof against SQL injection attacks as I had thought.
Scorpia said
Did I see Ricky Ricardo? Does that mean Lucy is around?
Hi all, I have about an hour to spare.
Summer…the season I can do without. Personally, I’d extend the other three by 1 month and skip summer entirely.
ME Strauss said
AdLib,
What’s a form hijack?
Ben Yoskovitz said
Liz — It’s bordering on serious isn’t it? But, it’s helpful. Describe Where Is Basil in 1 sentence. Darn that Wendy and her tough assignments.
Meanwhile, I’ve got a Technorati question — any Technorati experts here?
Ricardo said
AdLib, I’m from Portugal so it’s just one hour from here to there (here is earlyer)
Ben, I lived in Sherbrook near Montreal some time a couple years ago
Great country.
Rick said
I’m from the US, Ricardo, a transplant from the midwest (Illinois) to the east (Pennsylvania) by way of the west (Colorado) and the south (Florida).
Ricardo said
Shoot the techie question!
Service Untitled - Douglas said
Liz,
It’s an insecure form (like an email contact us form) that is vuleranble to people putting nasty code in it that can cause issues with sites.
It happens quite a bit, especially with out of date scripts.
ME Strauss said
Ben,
I know a bit about Technorati, but first I think you misunderstood me. Go look at Where is Basil now,
Advice Librarian said
Form hijack? Hang on a second, link-heavy post coming up
Scorpia said
Wow Rick, you’ve really done the US tour! Which place did you like best?
Ben Yoskovitz said
Ricardo - I’ve got family from Sherbrooke. My mother is from there in fact.
So Technorati anyone? Maybe I’ll just pose the question, see if there’s anyone lurking who can help.
I claimed a new blog at http://www.instigatorblog.com, but for whatever reason, Technorati claims it as http://instigatorblog.com. Goes to the same place, but most links will probably include the “www”.
While I’m far from obsessed with my Technorati ranking, will that somehow affect it; that most links are to “www.” while the claim is without the “www”
I’m sure AdLib can help me!
ME Strauss said
Thanks Doug,
That’s what I suspected, but I like to be sure I know what I’m thinking.
Do we know where said form originated so that we might suggest that others avoid it?
ME Strauss said
Ben,
I can’t tell you the reason, but I can tell you they’re in another of their screwy upgrades again. My blog is so crazy now I can’t believe it.
Rick said
Hi Scorpia. Sorry I missed you.
Even though I was only there six months, I liked Colorado the best. Florida was fun, but after a few years I missed the change of seasons we get in the north, and it was just too flat for my taste. I love the mountains. I’m trying to talk my wife into moving to the mountains of Arizona or New Mexico when we get old and decrepit. There we can go up if we want cold and snow, or down if we want warm and sunny. We could deside what season we wanted every day.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Liz — what’s going on at Where Is Basil that’s serious? I just went and looked…
Scorpia said
Ben can you edit that listing and put the www back in?
Advice Librarian said
Form Hijack - mostly nontechie explanation of how it works and what you can do (and Wordpress is on top of this, so your comment field isn’t vulnerable to this.)
SQL injection attacks are a way to mess with your database through insecure forms, logins and other interactive elements of your site. (This is also a fairly non-techie explanation)
Renée said
It’s summer here all year round in Singapore. They says, “Too much of a good thing is bad for your health” … me say, “Too much of a good thing is lacking my creativity to be romantic”
I’ve got 100 more days to “moan” until I’m home for Christmas vacation in Los Angeles. After which, the cycle begins for 340 days till the next Christmas.
Oh gosh, just hope the heat won’t burn too much of my brain cells before I get home! =)
Scorpia said
Rick, sounds like a plan. I prefer four (well three) seasons myself.
Service Untitled - Douglas said
Hosts have to deal with insecure forms all the time. Good ones will pick it up. Best way to avoid having a problematic form is to email your host and ask which one they suggest.
Joe said
Hey Ben,
I cam across this plug-in to redirect www and non-www URL’s. I don’t know if it will help, but you should at least check it out.
http://blog.youontop.com/seo-for-blogs/redirect-non-www-to-www-in-wordpress-29.html
Ben Yoskovitz said
Scorpia - I actually deleted the claim and re-claimed, making sure I put “www” — it still doesn’t seem to make a difference.
Advice Librarian said
Hmm, I’m thinking that your canonical www/non-www issue can be solved by using a bit of .htaccess black magic to redirect one to the other. It’s what I’m using on the Advice Library.
Scorpia said
Ben, that is really strange, Have you tried asking technorati support about that?
ME Strauss said
Ben,
Check Where is Basil in IE . . . It’’s all over itself.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Thanks, Joe. I’ll take a look.
And as it goes with all things “Technorati” … give it a few days and see what happens. They seem to be perpetually having “problems” and right now I’m not overly concerned, but it is nice to see who is linking to you, etc.
Ricardo said
capucino anyone?
Service Untitled - Douglas said
Messing with .htaccess can be scary. I have a few generators/tip sites in my bookmarks.
This one: http://cooletips.de/htaccess/
and this one: http://thejackol.com/htaccess-cheatsheet
Rick said
Hi Renée!
ME Strauss said
Hi Renee!!
Everyone have cold ones and say hello to Renee!
She just got here in comment 64!
Joe said
Liz,
I just checked Where’s Basil with IE6 and it looked fine to me.
What version of IE are you using?
Scorpia said
What’s this about Basil?
ME Strauss said
Hi Joe,
I’m using IE 6 and things are overlapping . . .
Ben Yoskovitz said
Hey Liz — I concur with Joe — Where Is Basil looks fine in IE for me.
Hi Renee!
Scorpia — I’m going to contact support tomorrow if I don’t see an update.
Meanwhile I probably WILL be updating the theme for Where Is Basil soon for more flexibility.
Scorpia — check out http://www.whereisbasil.com.
Advice Librarian said
Hi, Renee!
Oh, I brought spanish olives by the way, anyone want some?
(and today, my germans under emeror Frederick just finished invading the English under Winston Churchill. I left him one city and made him swear vassalage to me…)
Scorpia said
Ben, thanks for the link. Good luck with technorati.
Liz, just looked at Basil in Mozilla and it was fine for me. You change anything in IE lately?
Scorpia said
Ah, Adlib…playing Civ IV again?
ME Strauss said
My bad!!!
Sorry, Ben, I know what it was now.
I had the “VIEW” kicked up, because I was cropping someone’s tiny title. That’s what made everything overlap.
I apologize.
Scorpia said
Liz, good thing it was something simple and easy to change. These little things happen to us all.
Advice Librarian said
Err, yes - Churchill and Stalin attacked my Germans, so I wiped out the Russian entirely and made the british into my vassals. It seemed like the German thing to do
Tony said
Anyone still here?
Ben Yoskovitz said
Phew. Where Is Basil isn’t a disaster. *grin*
Still, you can expect some changes (hopefully good ones!) in the near future. Just need to find the time…
Scorpia said
Why not, AdLib? After all, Germany and Britain have had close ties in the past. Nice of you not to wipe them out.
Joe said
Does anyone realize that they shut down Steele Pier on Labor Day for Good?
It’s a landmark from childhood in Atlantic City.
Rick said
Technorati definitely has some issues. For some reason it won’t pick up one of my posts, and it has skipped links.
I tried the .htaccess redirect on my site. For some reason I didn’t get it right, so things from my software site were redirected properly, but not the blog, which is in a subdirectory. I had to use a plugin to get it redirected properly.
Scorpia said
Why did they do that, Joe?
ME Strauss said
Hi Tony,
Yeah! We’re still here from last week. Come on in!
Tony said
I’ve been having technorati problems as well — it just won’t update itself on my site.
Joe said
Scorpia, I guess it outlived it’s usefulness. It was the only family friendly place left in AC.
The Donald owns it and wants to turn it into condo’s.
Rick said
Hi Tony! We never left. Just sittin’ on beach, singing ‘Sittin on the dock of the bay’, watching the sun set, drinking Corona or other beverage of choice, and eating Spanish olive.
cat said
Hi all, I’m in lurk mode again for the day. Too much to do and no time, yadda yadda.
www - there is a push to do away with ‘world wide web’ as it isn’t needed.
Does anyone have the site url? It’s like the ‘anti www society’ or something like that.
Scorpia said
Joe, sorry to hear that. But of course condos will bring in more money, and that’s all The Donald cares about.
ME Strauss said
Hey, Rick, will you pass the olives?
Tony said
Ah … the timezone thing always fools me
Says 9pm over here, but its clearly 8pm over there.
… speaking of which — where is “there”, liz?
Joe said
All too true, Scorpia
ME Strauss said
Hi Cat,
I’ll do some looking . ..
Rick said
Hi cat!
It is needed, though. Use still have ftp and file, and the others are still available though not used much.
I tried to google anti www society. The first link was to The Anti-Cruelty Society.
Joe said
Does anyone know the tune to…
Little Surfer Girl?
Ben Yoskovitz said
Hi Tony…nice to meet you.
I don’t really see any reason to scrap “www” … but anyhoo. As long as people can find my blog and enjoy it…I don’t really care what Technorati says.
Summer is very much almost over here. It scares me. While I’m a huge hockey fan, the prospect of winter is not amusing. That’s my bit “on theme” for the summer talk. *grin*
Hi Cat!
Rick said
Sure Liz. I didn’t mean to hoard them. I was pretending they were on a pizza.
Scorpia said
Oh no, here we go again. Now that tune is going thru my head. Last week with the beer jingles was bad enough. Now it’ll be old Beach Boy songs. Nooooooo!
Advice Librarian said
Mmm, pizza! My favourite is the chicken-and-jalapeno one they make in the joint down the street…
ME Strauss said
Here Scorpia,
Does this help?
Hot town, summer in the city . ..
Tony said
Whassup Ben — nice to meet you.
So — where’s everyone from?
I’m from Toronto, Canada … the Greatest City on Earth.
(ducks).
Joe said
Ok, I’ll give you my most embarrassing moment in summer romance…
I had met this girl on a blind date and we got along very well. So much so that we started to get very close together.
We went to the bank of the Delaware River and started to get romantically entangled.
In the middle of summer on the Delaware River, the most troublesome insect in the world exists. They suck BLOOD, Lots of BLOOD.
With that happening, we had to run back to the car and itched so much we had to leave to get Calamine Lotion (yes there was a song about that).
So much for a Romantic Evening.
The End
Scorpia said
No Liz, now I have that one going through my head, besides which, we don’t need any more “hot towns”. There was too much of that this past summer.
Summer, the season I can do without.
Rick said
Pizza…mmm - sausage, pineapple, extra cheese, and green olives. For some reason no one around here has the olives.
ME Strauss said
Okay
Summertime and the living is easy
Fish are jumping and the cotton is high
Ben Yoskovitz said
Joe…who itched who?
Tony … I’m from Montreal … we probably should avoid too much “t-dot / mtl” city conflict. *smile*
Scorpia said
Thanks, Joe. Now I have “Poison Ivy” running through my head
Tough luck on the romantic evening. Did you ever date that girl again?
Joe said
Liz, Isn’t that Hot Damn, summer in the City?
Scorpia said
Liz, now it’s depressing. Wish I’d had a rich daddy; life would be easier
Joe said
Uh, no Scorpia, I was too embarrassed to ask her out again…
Ricardo said
Going to bed. Nice talking to you all. Will be back for sure
Service Untitled - Douglas said
Bye Ricardo! See you next week.
Joe said
Nite Ricardo.
Scorpia said
Aw, too bad, Joe. But I can understand how you felt.
How come things like that never happen in romantic movies? (although maybe in a comedy)
cat said
‘waving back at everyone’s morning greeting’
Ok, I finally found the site (yeah google!)
http://no-www.org/
katiebird said
Oh my gosh — Bed? It’s time for bed already? But, but, I just GOT here!
Tony said
Ben — I had no idea there was a conflict!
Nous sommes des amis, n’est-ce pas ?
(and I’ve just exhausted all of my grade 10 french skillz now …
Rick said
Good night, Ricardo. It was good to meet you. Sleep well.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Tony — did you use a template for your blog or totally custom?
ME Strauss said
Hi Katie,
Not to worry,
Ricardo lives in Portugal!
katiebird said
Ah, Portugal land of my grandparents. Well the Azores anyway. Close enough. Goodnight Ricardo
katiebird said
(cough) Hi Liz!!
Rick said
Hi Katiebird. It’s always bedtime somewhere.
Scorpia: How about
Old black water, keep on rolling
Mississippi moon won’t you keep on shining on me….
It’s not specifically about summer, but I always associate it with summer.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Tony … are you a Leafs fan? *grin* (as the Canadians hijack the discussion again!)
And nice job on the French!
Oui, nous sommes des amis, bien sur! J’habitais proche de Toronto pour quel’ques annees … a Guelph… Ok, writing in French is tiring. Phew.
Scorpia said
Rick, now ya got me. That’s a song I don’t know.
Hmm, five minutes to liftoff here.
Tony said
Hi Katiebird — *WE* know you’re here … (ha ha)
As for you, Ben … actually, I’ve rolled it all on my own.
Thanks for noticing.
Unless you think that there’s something wrong with it.
Then … just let me have it.
I can take it.
Just be gentle.
katiebird said
Gee Rick, my first thought when I read that was, I’m so glad no one told me that when I was a child. Even as an adult it made me feel a little sad. It’s always bedtime somewhere. sigh.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Rick…nice song choice…that’s worth having in your head.
Hi katiebird!
ME Strauss said
Summer Breeze makes me feel fine
Blowing through the jasmine in my mind . . .
cat said
On the subject of ’summer time’
Like in Florida, it’s always summer here. We have ‘hot’ summer, ‘hot and wet’ summer, ‘hot and dry’ summer and for a change, a ‘hot, hot, hot’ summer.
When people say “I’ll see you at summer vacation” we always have to think a bit, especially as we have Australia and New Zealand as near neighbors.
After over ten years in the region this time around (I live in NZ as a young girl to teen), it’s fully engrained in my way of thinking.
katiebird said
Hi Ben!
Ben Yoskovitz said
Tony - I remembered liking it the first time I saw it, and I still like it.
It’s got an original flair to it that’s very cool. And from someone that’s not a coder/web designer it’s a solid piece of design work. So kudos.
Advice Librarian said
I’m with Scorpia - summer is the season when people go on and on about stepping away from the computer and doing things they think are interesting.
Scorpia said
Liz is trying womanfully to keep us on summer.
So as I leave for the evening…
I send you all my love
Every day in a letter
Sealed with a kiss
(how’d you miss that one, Liz?
ME Strauss said
Yeah, Cat,
One of my Asutrailian friends is always reminding me . . . “What you Brits and Americans call the Far East, we call the Near North.”
Rick said
That was the Doobie Bros, Scorpia (Yes Joe, I had to look it up). I think we’re showing our age.
Joe said
I can’t nobody stated the obvious…
Summertime, Summertime
Sum,Sum, Summertime
Summertiiiiime.
Rick said
Good night, Scorpia. See you next week.
Tony said
Ah, those are very kind words, my friend and fellow Canadian.
Funny story behind it all.
I had *ANOTHER* design going for a while …
And then I stumbled on another guy’s blog who had almost exactly the same design.
Except he has had it up fora bout 3 years.
And it was better.
So I had to change it.
Meh.
In a strange twist of events — this other dude is FROM toronto, is ALSO asian … but clearly more talented than me.
For your perusal:
My “old” blog — tony.thehungs.org
The “other” blog — http://www.beatnikpad.com
my “new”blog — http://www.deepjiveinterests.com
Chris Cree said
~Vacation
all I ever wanted~
~Vacation
had to get away~
Service Untitled - Douglas said
I have to get some stuff done before I go to bed. See everyone next week! Night.
cat said
“What’s a form hijack?”
Form hacks can bring an entire server down.
In just the past few weeks, thousands of sites around the world were hacked into to protest the US involvement in the war in Israel. I believe a majority were via insecure form code.
Google ‘Turkish Hacker MDX’ and you can see the range of homepages that they replaced with the protest below.
..:Hacked bY mdx:..*********Turkish Hacker Mdx********
Hacked By mdX This is Website Hacked! by mdx. _____________________________________________
Rick said
How warm does it get in Norway in the summer, AdLib? I won’t even ask about how cold it gets in the winter. My way back when Viking ancestors would think I’m a wimp.
Tony said
(gee, I hope LIz doesn’t boot me for link spam
Rick said
Hi Chris!
Good night, Douglas. Don’t work too late.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Night Doug!
Tony, I like the navigation on the top right. Very bold + distinctive. That’s what stands out first.
I like the captions under the images too.
katiebird said
I read a fun little book this summer that was a sort of love story to the summer of 1969. It took place in England and it was really interesting that the characters lived through all the same events as I remembered, but with a British opinion.
Like the moon landing, they had Champagne just like us, even the little kids. And there were things like the induction of Prince Charles that I watched with my cousins, but totally forgot about.
I knew it was a special summer at the time so I was pretty thrilled to find this novel about it.
ME Strauss said
Tony,
I’ve never booted anyone for anything. You’re being nice.
Ben Yoskovitz said
Evening Chris…good to see you around.
Chris Cree said
Yeah, Tony. Link to your heart’s content here. Just don’t mention *cough* Wikipedia
ME Strauss said
Good night, Doug
Don’t work as hard as I do!
It doesn’t pay well!
cat said
“http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/”
Ohhhhh, nice! Thanks for sharing. You’ve been bloglined.
Tony said
Oh, Liz!
(blushes daintily)
– does that give me carte blanche to push the envelope?
(man, I do love to disturb the sh*t sometimes …
katiebird said
I’m really enjoying my glimpses of Tony’s blog. But I don’t want to fall behind here so I’m suffering from TAB rotation fever.
ME Strauss said
Ooooh Chris,
My flat screen is covered with crayon!
Chris Cree said
Hey Rick! Hey Ben!
Hey Everybody!
Advice Librarian said
This summer’s been a miserably hot one, hitting 30 or so degrees at the high end. That’s centigrade by the way, not some weird scale used in backwards parts of the world
Speaking of surfing music - here’s the lyrics to one of the best surfing songs ever as sung by a young Val Kilmer….
Tony said
Ha ha — thanks katiebird.
Lovin’ your site as well.
Katiebird — are you familiar with the Glycemic Index?
ME Strauss said
Alright there, Tony,
Just what are you thinking?
katiebird said
Tony, Yes — to some degree (probably not enough) it rules my life. I have diabetes and thoughts of it are always lurking near the surface. I don’t think I’ve written about it for a while though….
Chris Cree said
Liz, You might try these Kaboom Grafiti Wipes to get that crayon off your screen whenever someone happens to mention *cough* Wikipedia.
Rick said
Backwards, I agree. Our one so-so attempt to go metric went over like the proverbial lead balloon, with the exception of car manufacturers who decided that wanted to use metrics and English.
Tony said
Oh … nothing in particular Liz … just sending a feeler out (winks!)
ME Strauss said
Chris,
It sounds like you have a *ahem* Jack booger of a cold.
Excuse me while I wildly color on my flat screen again.
Chris Cree said
Rick, the best I’ve seen around here are ships that have their draft marks (the numbers that tell how deep they are in the water) in metric on one side and English on the other.
Holy fits of unit conversion, Batman!
Oh, and why do we still call it English measurements if the English aren’t using it anymore?
Rick said
So what’s up with *cough* Wikipedia, Chris? Is there something we should know?
Joe said
*lurk* *lurk*
Just hanging in the background trying to figure out where this conversation is going…
*lurk* *lurk*
Rick said
My personal vote would be to go back to the cubit and stone, but I don’t think anyone would go along with it.
ME Strauss said
Coloring like crazy, don’t drink and draw!
Advice Librarian said
Not going metric leads to embarrasments like the Mars Lander where JPL did all their calculations in furlongs, hogsheads and carats for the lander, and forgot to translate that to the real metric figures the rest of NASA used.
$500 million’s worth of hardware plowing into Mars at terminal velocity, because some people just don’t want to learn to count…
Tony said
Well, that’s interesting.
I did some work with David Jenkins (one of the guys who thought up the GI concept) himself a few years ago. He’s a real interesting guy, he is
And he, to quote the managerial quote, surely “eats his own dog food”. (which is to say, he surely ate what he wrote about … he is, I’m sure to this day, a pure vegan).
Great guy though.
ME Strauss said
Tony,
I love it when you wink at me. *winking back*
Chris Cree said
Rick, I just make associations. I noticed a while back that our venerable hostess seems to go into a crayon convulsion, scribbling all over her screen anytime someone mentions that which will henceforth remain unmentionable (except for comic relief purposes, of course).
Tony said
Liz, I have to warn you –
– I am free and easy with the winks!
(WINK!)
Advice Librarian said
I think there’s someone lurking in the undergrowth over there - which is odd, considering that I don’t think we’re on a nude beach…
Rick said
Aaaahhh…
I am just a tad thick at times. I hope it doesn’t happen with the free dictionary, too.
katiebird said
Tony that is fascinating about knowing David Jenkins (I thought about posting a link to an online encyclopedia article, but. um. no.)
Ben Yoskovitz said
Alright y’all…I have to call it a night. It’s been fun. Enjoy your summer time while you can!
Tony…jump on the Where Is Basil bandwagon my Torontonian friend. You can show Basil what it’s like to be studying medicine. Could be interesting…
Have fun, color like crazy, and someone please explain why we can’t see that which must not be mentioned for fear of Liz going into a coloring frenzy…
Chris Cree said
I can count. I just can’t do arithmetic all that well. “I’m sorry officer. How fast is 120Kph?”
100 divided by 32… Carry the 7…
“Gee, I thought I was going faster than that.”
ME Strauss said
Rick,
Said free encyclopedia bounced an article Martin wrote about the Link Leak virus. When I went to find out why. I got hopelessly lost in their maze of policy in ways that Alice in Wonderland never imagined. I’ve been having rules and regulations nightmares ever since it happened.
Advice Librarian said
Drink and draw… hmm, speaking of which, make mine a Laphroaigh.
Rick said
Good night, Ben. Have a good week.
Joe said
*lurk* *rustle*
*lurk* *lurk*
*rustle*
Chris Cree said
I’m told John Wayne could “drink and draw” just fine. But then he wasn’t exactly using Crayola’s either.
katiebird said
Good Night Ben. (Joe, I SEE you over there)
ME Strauss said
Drinks all around and a Laphroaigh for the handsome young man from Norway!
Advice Librarian said
Well, you just needed some navigation help from your friendly neighbourhood Librarian, didn’t you?
ME Strauss said
Good night Ben,
Hope you still have some brownies!
Chris Cree said
Night Ben. Say Hey to Basil for me. {The smell is finally starting to leave our guest room. Didn’t know we’d need so much sawdust…}
ME Strauss said
No worries about the Free dictionary, Rick. They’ve never trapped me in their policy book.
ME Strauss said
Joe,
You want a cold one?
Joe said
Just trying to hid from all the ’skeeters.
They get bad this time of year.
Tony said
Ha ha
All right all …
Have to pick up the wife as she is seeing Spam-a-lot.
Keep blogging, keep commenting, and yes … keep it real.
And, in case no one’s mentioned it already (raises glass) — Steve Irwin was many things, but he was one helluva entertainer, educator, Australian and father. We’ll miss you, you crocodile-hunting guy, you.
Cheers everyone!
Rick said
I didn’t know *that which shall rename nameless* ever turned down an article. But then, I never checked. I just made sure articles I referenced confirmed info I knew before I used it for a citation.
Chris Cree said
But Liz, How many entries have you tried to contribute to the Free dictionary?
That which will remain unmentionable (for the moment) seems to be a bit elitist regarding new entries. There are definitely some egos involved over there.
Rick said
Good night, Tony.
Joe, B complex does wonders to keep the skeeters away. I think it makes you stink to them.
Chris Cree said
Night Tony.
The best skeeter repellent I’ve found involves a lot of time indoors.
ME Strauss said
The encyclopedia formerly known as “that shall remain nameless” called the article “nonsense.” It said it needed to be vetted by real sources and blogs were not.
Advice Librarian said
By the way - what the h*ll is your government thinking?
ME Strauss said
Good night Tony!
Joe said
Well, we know that it is only the Female that sucks Blood.
The male just mates and dies.
At least in the life of a skeeter.
ME Strauss said
AdLib
That question is way too big for one blog to answer!
Chris Cree said
AdLib, The bureaucrats gotta pay for their Pork somehow…
Why not take it out of the flesh of the folks they send to fight their wars? I mean how many votes do they represent?
Rick said
I think few people in any government thinks. They just respond. Usually I avoid the subject.
Advice Librarian said
Yeah, but cutting funding into medical research to treat combat head trauma - while your troops are in combat? That’s not supporting the troops in my book.
ME Strauss said
Can’t argue with that, AdLib. It’s stinks. Pure and simple.
Chris Cree said
See the ones voting on the budget don’t actually use their own brains. I guess that’s why they figure it must be one of those elective surgery things.
Advice Librarian said
Hmm - the porkbuster site you linked to is listing wildlife conservation, national parks and basic research into non-agribusiness agriculture as “pork spending”.
As a conservative, I’m not sure I buy the argument that trying to conserve wilderness, hunting grounds and the wildlife to hunt is “pork spending”.
Rick said
[rant on]They’re idiotic, AdLib. The best thing you can say about lawyers is they haven’t grown up to be politicians, yet. I don’t think many people in Congress really care, and the one’s who do care don’t have the power to do anything about it. Anyone who wants to be elected to office shouldn’t be.
[rant off].
Sorry Liz. I’ll be quiet now.
ME Strauss said
Rick,
No worries. You never go crazy.
Advice Librarian said
Hmm, as a tangential note to Rick’s comment, I’d just like you to observe which party is in power now…
Chris Cree said
AdLib, I just put up a quickie pork link via compliments of Google. I do know one man’s pork is another man’s vital program and vice versa.
In other news he said trying to steer clear of politics before we all get our crayons out I think I finally got my style sheet working correctly in IE.
Speaking of the scourge of blogdom…
Advice Librarian said
Yeah, I hear you, Chris. Though I think everyone agrees that Senator Steven’s “Bridge to Nowhere” is pure pork no matter who you are…
so, how about them Cubs, eh? Are they even playing now?
(Uh, which sport is that team doing,l by the way?)
Rick said
The main problem isn’t which party is in power now, AdLib. The problem is the same party controls both the legislative and executive branches. We tend to do better when one party controls one branch, and the other party controls the other branch. It doesn’t matter which one.
Now, back to the beach. In Rockford they brought in sand to build the beach at Rock Cut State Park.
I used to love to go fishing there when I was young.
Rick said
The Cubs are baseball, AdLib, from Liz’s neck of the woods.
Chris Cree said
Hey Liz, I think I forgot to close an italics tag in comment number 211. Sorry.
Rick said
Dude! I think you got it, Chris. It worked great for me. What did you end up doing?
Joe said
Liz,
Can you go back to Chris’ comment and close the italic???
It’s driving me crazy…
Chris Cree said
GAAAHH! Comment #221!
I am having typing issues tonight. Maybe I should go watch Eureka?
ME Strauss said
Caught it Chris, Just as you were writing that.
ME Strauss said
Yeah, the Cubs play just about 16-20 blocks away from where I am sitting now.
Advice Librarian said
Watching eureka is always good, but don’t you have a TIVO for that, Chris?
Rick said
Joe, you’re done lurking? I was thinking about a trail of beer bottles to try to lure you out.
Chris Cree said
Rick, The theme I am using (Tiga-06) has a whole control panel that lets you modify all sorts of pieces of the theme right instead of rooting through the style sheet itself. It is really cool. But the info is accessed through a style.php file instead of a style.css file.
What I did was go though and manually make the changes into a style.css file and use that instead. IE doesn’t like the php extension for the style apparently. FF had no problem. Go figure.
Big pain. But since 2/3 of the users are still with IE it had to be done.
Roy Jacobsen said
Hey, y’all. I know it’s getting late, but figured better that than not showing up at all.
Is the topic still summer vacations, or is baseball and politics the dominating thread?
ME Strauss said
Hey Roy,
Talk about whatever you feel like. That’s what we do!
Chris Cree said
AdLib, we do have TIVO. That is why I can still see it since it ended a while back. And I have to go anyway.
Y’all have a great night. See you next time.
Enjoy!
ME Strauss said
Good night Chris
Good luck with that sawdust!
Advice Librarian said
“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people who annoyed me today”
-not quite Reinhold Niebuhr
Rick said
Hey Roy! My supply of baseball knowledge was exhausted by the Cubs.
Good night, Chris. The blog looks good.
Joe said
Rick,
I’m still here, I smelled the Beer. I just had to come out for a little while.
I just didn’t feel like talking politics tonight.
ME Strauss said
So Roy,
Whadja do on your summer vacation?
Advice Librarian said
What I did on my summer vacation was mostly local political blogging - how about you?
I’m thinking I should have tagged along with my buddy who went to Bora Bora and sailed around in the Pacific for three weeks.
Roy Jacobsen said
Summer vacation: We spent a week in Grand Beach Provincial Park, on Lake Winnipeg, Manitoba. One of the best beaches in North America, with two miles of *fine* sand, backed by dunes. Not too crowded, nice warm weather (so the cool water felt pretty good), and hardly any mosquitos. They had a sand castle contest while we were there, which was a lot of fun to watch. Highly recommended.
So, what other beaches would you all recommend? Indiana Dunes on Lake Michigan was very nice, but a bit crowded when we were there.
Roy Jacobsen said
Baseball: I’m trying to not pay too much attention to the Twins. The keep slipping in and out of the wild-card slot, and I fear that if I root too hard, they’ll be jinxed.
Advice Librarian said
I liked the beaches near Clinton on Lake Huron, even if the heat/humidity in late June nearly killed me…
Rick said
If you like quiet, warm water the beaches in Clearwater/St. Petersburg, Florida are nice. The most beautiful sunrise I ever saw was over Daytona Beach.
Roy Jacobsen said
Oh, and I almost forgot: the beach just west of St. Ignace/Macinac Island in the U.P. Sand so fine, and it squeaks when you walk on it.
Joe said
I bared my soul
for you tonight
Bout the skeeters
that ruined my life
The End of summer
is always sad
that’s why the kids
are always bad
Going back to school
was never good
but my parents made sure
because they should
So when the nights get long
make sure to sing a song
because the gobblins will soon be here
to bring us all Halloween Cheer.
Berma Shave
Nite Liz
Nite All
Rick said
Good night, Joe.
ME Strauss said
I love beaches. They have so much sky!
ME Strauss said
Good night, Joe
Sleepy swell.
Advice Librarian said
‘Nite, Joe!
sleep tight, and don’t let the mosquitos bite
Renée said
Hi everyone,
Goodness, I just left my dogs to the vet for an hour after my first comment at #64 (btw, gotta love this number), and I’m flabbergast by the amount of comments there after.
You guys can really chat!
Advice Librarian said
Heh, speaking of which - while I was in the Army Rangers stationed on the Norway/Russia border, there were times when we were badly outnumbered by billions of assault mosquitos….
ME Strauss said
So it takes 299 comments to take your dogs to the vet. Got that one recorded for Joe’s record book.
ME Strauss said
Sorry,
Welcome Back, Renee!
Rick said
My pillow is calling me, too. Good night everyone.
Thank you again, Liz. Make sure you take the beach sky to bed with you as you listen to the sound of the gulls, the gentle swoosh of the sea, and feel the warmth of the sun upon your face.
ME Strauss said
Thanks Rick, I will, all but the sand and the olives.
Sleep well.
ME Strauss said
So AdLib,
What did you use on the mosquito attack force?
Renée said
hahaha…very funny
“So it takes 299 comments to take your dogs to the vet.”
Advice Librarian said
‘Bye, Rick
I’m making a second round of “fÃ¥rikÃ¥l” the coming Sunday, by the way - my brother was a little put out that he didn’t get any on account of being in Germany at the time.
Anyone going to try the recipe from last week?
ME Strauss said
Yeah, Renee,
It takes 75 comments for Joe to get a haircut.
ME Strauss said
AdLib,
Could you seriously be asking me whether I’m going to cook?
ME Strauss said
I’ll be with Roy, worrying about the Minnesota Twins.
Advice Librarian said
On the mosquitos we used copious amounts of bug spray, heavy netting, and outright hiding under the duvet the time when the netting came loose and the squad woke to what felt like a couple hundred of them flying around our bunks….
ME Strauss said
HOW BIG WERE THEY? Those mosquitoes?
Advice Librarian said
Well, yes - it’s not a hard recipe, is it? Bits of lamb, bits of cabbage, some water, peppercorns and salt, boil for an hour and a half. Serve with potatoes.
ME Strauss said
Me cooking? Ha! Even my friends who aren’t reading this are laughing. . .
Roy Jacobsen said
Sorry to have disappeared. My laptop inexplicably froze up on me. (Been doing that from time to time, and I haven’t pinned down the circumstances yet.)
seanrox said
Sorry I’m late. I got stuck in traffic. What’s on the grill tonight? I brought some chicken and veggies.
Advice Librarian said
Hey, give it a try - you could have hidden talents!
Very hidden ones.
Well, okay - you can give the recipe to hubby if you absolutely must
The mosquitos in the north are the large kind - roughly half a centimetre. They’re genuinely scary beasties…
Renée said
The reason for me being so slow (299 comments)… I drive slow when my dogs are with me. But with humans, who gives a heck to their safety if they don’t buckle up!
ME Strauss said
Hey Sean!
Sorry to hear about the traffic. You got here just in time. AdLib was about to make me cook.
ME Strauss said
Hey Renee.
I would have thought 299 comments is fast for taking 2 dogs to the vet. After all there’s getting them into the car, traffic, waiting room, and then the vet and what goes on there. Then there’s the getting back and getting on the computer again. Whew! I’m tired.
seanrox said
Hi Liz. I’m a master at cooking on the grill. I have a lot of BBQ-Fu and love to grill, so take a step back, grab a cool drink and relax… the cook has arrived.
Advice Librarian said
Hmm - if you can’t cook, how do you keep yourself fed? Rely on hubby’s Mad Kitchen Skillz?
katiebird said
(I’m back) I’m glad I didn’t have to drive here. I didn’t realize the traffic was so bad.
ME Strauss said
Hey Katie!
AdLib,
I never did eat much. i’m smell blind so food holds no great appeal either. So yeah IT man provides the sustanance around here or I pull something together, but I wouldn’t call it cooking — not really.
ME Strauss said
Sean,
You’re welcome here anytime day or night — grill or no grill. Just for saying that!
Yvonne said
-_- Greetings -_-
katiebird said
Hi Liz — I had to sneak off to write a couple of things for tomorrow morning. It’s my new idea — being prepared ahead of time.
Advice Librarian said
Hey, Katie!
I’m just trying to talk our hostess into making the recipe I posted last week for her family this weekend - it’s not hard to do and it’s outstandingly delicious food
ME Strauss said
Hey Yvonne!
Welcome!
No classs today?
Renée said
Liz, the vet is only less than 3 miles away. And I’ve known this Doctor for ages, and they know the drill. Here in Singapore you have to talk fast or other patients (animals) will get very paranoid.
Yvonne said
I got let out early =)
And I’m still late =( And damn, I wish it was summer already here
ME Strauss said
Even so Renee, sometimes we do about 1.5 comments a second. So you weren’t doing so bad, really.
Advice Librarian said
Hey, Yvonne! I think I’ve managed to miss ‘meeting’ you quite a few times lately
ME Strauss said
Yvonne,
There’s no late here. We’re in a time warp!
katiebird said
Hi AL — better here than me. That week I had to take care of myself just about wiped me out. I finally just started sprinkling cheese & olive oil and Mrs. Dash on spagetti and calling it dinner.
Yvonne, I like your blog — the look and humor.
Liz, this is a really great night!
ME Strauss said
Thanks Katie,
I’m just the portal. Everything here is the people.
Renée said
My hats off to you guys. “1.5 comments a second”. Not only you guys are probloggers, proCommenters as well.
This is by far the best comment activity for me!
Advice Librarian said
Heh, how come none of the women I hang out with can cook? It’s not like I’m advocating roast leg of lamb or barbequing a whole pig either
ME Strauss said
Is it that we can’t or that we won’t?
Hmmmmm?
katiebird said
Liz, It just couldn’t happen if it wasn’t for you. And I know exactly how difficult it is. I used to be the Saturday host at a virtual cafe. After 6 months I just couldn’t do it any more.
ME Strauss said
Aw, thanks, Katie.
I like everyone who comes here so much.
cat said
“Heh, how come none of the women I hang out with can cook? ”
Well, obviously you are hanging around the wrong women
Advice Librarian said
Careful there, Cat - you’re one of the women I hang around with. you’re not suggesting that you’re the Wrong Woman, are you?
katiebird said
AL, wasn’t it lamb you were pushing last week?
ME Strauss said
I think that Cat cooks, Ad Lib . . . I’m the wrong woman here.
Yvonne said
I think we bumped into each other a couple of Wednesdays back (ahem, TUESDAYS back)
katiebird: Thank you very much =)
Yvonne said
The first comment was for Advice Librarian! Don’t you hate it when you click Submit Comment and then you realise you’ve made a mistake but it’s too late to stop the comment from sending?
Ahem …
Advice Librarian said
Yes, but just a simple one - chunks of neck,shank and breast, cabbage, and boil. Not as complicated as .. leg of lamb, baste lightly and sprinkle with rosemary, and put in oven for a while…
I’ll cop to being a fairly decent cook, actually. Maybe that’s why none of the women around me admit to knowing how to cook?
katiebird said
Yvonne, it happens to me all the time. Especially here where the comments are flying so fast.
Yvonne said
Advice Librarian, you’re making me hungry … I’m going to fetch me some lunch =)
katie, lol, I take one five minute break and it’s a new page already!
Advice Librarian said
Yeah - it’s Wednesday for me as well, actually.
Wednesday morning, in fact.
By the way, someone’s finally made a song that manages to capture my feelings precicely.
Have a listen
ME Strauss said
Sometimes, I think AdLib wants to stir more than what’s in his lamb pot.
cat said
Ah, you are right, you do hang with me
And Liz is also right, I cook. At times I spend a day plus researching a menu, three days shopping for the ingredients (or since I’m out here and not all are available, what can be in place of the ingredients) and two to three days prep before ‘the’ night.
If it’s xmas in SE Asia, I often spend six months or so bringing in special foods I cannot get here. And of course, the wines, cheeses, and chocolates to go with.
Cooking to me is a hobby. It’s also a work of art if done right. I like art. Especially the type that tingles the senses!
Advice Librarian said
*innocent look*
Why, whatever do you mean, Ma’am?
ME Strauss said
Now, what Cat’s talking about is fun, not cooking! It’s producing a meal! I’ve done that on occasion. It’s quite enjoyable.
ME Strauss said
Why, AdLib, my dear. I do think you might fit down in the south during the Antebellum period talking to Miss Scarlett and sipping mint julips.
katiebird said
(yawn) ooo — I’m sorry friends, I’ve got to go to sleep.
Liz - this was wonderful. Really, I will never take you for granted.
AL, Yvonne, lurkers, everyone lingering on earlier pages or typing stuff I haven’t read yet — goodnight, goodnight. It’s been very fun.
ME Strauss said
Sweet Dreams, Katie!
I think you have the right idea!
ME Strauss said
AdLib,
I think I’m going to bed with a good cookbook now.
See you in the morning. Don’t worry I’ll clean up tomorrow.
ME Strauss said
Unless, of course, you’re doing a “red-eye espresso.” Then stay as long as you like. I’ll leave the keys for you and any others who stop by.
Advice Librarian said
Okay - I’ll go back to fiddling with my poor hijacked scripts then!
‘Night all!
Advice Librarian said
By the way - more food for thought on astroturfing and professional paid shilling from Making Light - it’s something everyone who blogs could do with watching out for on account of how astroturfing pollutes the public debate….
cat said
re: I may just have to murder James Blunt …
Great fun … but … I do like to listen to ‘You’re beautiful’ …
Tom Bailey said
crud! I’m about 4 hours late for the party.
Sorry, Liz I’ve missed it two weeks straight. I’ll catch the fun next week.
seanrox said
Well I hope everyone enjoyed my BBQ-Fu. I have a long drive back to the West Coast, so I’m heading back now but feel free to take home some left overs, that is if Liz hasn’t already tucked them away in her fridge.
If you hear a sonic boom, that’s just me flying low heading home… as always, have laptop will travel
so see you all soon.
ME Strauss said
Hey, Tom
Welcome!
You weren’t so late. Look at the time. There’s a party every week. You were just about 7 days early that’s all. Hope come then and get to know us. We’re a crazy talkative bunch o’ blogger who just like to have fun.
ME Strauss said
Seanrox,
You win the award, I think, for bring us such great food with your visit. Always feel free to poke around and find what you need here. That’s why the header has the edits in the title. I
This blog’s about everyone who comes here not me.
It was so good to have you. Thanks for coming. You’re definitely part of Tuesday nights now!
TechZ said
bah, I’m going to have to site awake one night and be on Mic night! I totally missed it, but wow, it looks like it was quite a night
ME Strauss said
Hey Techz,
We’ll just have to do a weekend marathon one . . . keep the comments going for 24 hours!
Marti said
We didn’t start the choir
They were always lurking
Since Liz has been working
We didn’t start the choir
But she let them write it
Let them open mic it
BBQ, BBC, post today, BB King.
Portugal and summertime.
Labor Day and Techno ring.
Business talk is so sublime
Ben and Joe and Ricardo. Where did triple w go?
Churchill, Stalin, beer is cold. Beach Boys songs and Toronto.
Who are you? Librarian. What’s your take? Sectarian.
Scorpia and Ricardo. Summer breeze, Wiki blows.
Doobie Brothers, Vacation. Tony, Norway, location?
Moon landing in ’69. Rick and Chris, cubits and stones.
Douglas, lawyers, coloring. Conservation, telephones.
Come on in, the talk is fine. Would you like a glass of wine?
Bloglines, law, embarrassment. Conservation and the Cubs.
Roy, Florida. Tivo, sand. Politics? Everyone shrugs.
Eureka,.beach, mosquito. Renee, dogs to the vet go.
Sky and Basil, olives, Cat. Katiebird, bed? Please say no!
Hungry, Tom, lunch, Seanrox too. There’s Yvonne, 300 woo!
ME has done it again. Marathon open mic night.
Marti couldn’t be here then. But she wrote this condensed spin.
Thanks from LA to Berlin. Liz is great, what a delight!
ME Strauss said
Heck with that,
You’re not hiding this one. I’m making it a post for sure this afternoon.
Ram said
Hi Liz,
I am impressed!
Wow! 325 + 1 comments and still going strong. This mic of your is very famous I guess. I didn’t know people compete for the 1st position
Ram
ME Strauss said
Hi Ram!
Welcome,
They don’t really compete. They just see who gets here first. It’s not a big deal. It’s a fun time. Wish you could be here with us. Maybe when we do a weekend marathon!
Ram said
Thanks 4 the warm welcome Liz,
I would try my best to here on weekend marathon! Though I wonder what would be the size of marathon if the weekday mic looks this huge
ME Strauss said
Wouldn’t it be fun to find out?
I’d just have to think of a super topic!