It’s Like Open Mike Only Different
Here’s how it works.
By Popular Demand Open Comment Night Starts EARLY
The rules are simple — be nice.
It’s like any rambling conversation. Don’t try to read it all. Jump in whenever you get here. . . . Just go to the end and start talking. EVERYONE is WELCOME.
See this post if you want some ideas of things to talk about.
–ME “Liz” Strauss
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Hi Liz, et al… love the open mike!!! Try this;
“Will the telcos will win on net neutrality?”
Trying to be nice π – they already have, to the tune of over $200 Billion bucks. And not one soul, not one Telco exec, not one anti-Neutrality proponent, has denied it, that I have seen.
Good evening, Mr. Mark.
Did you read what Tim Lee-Berners had to say in Scotland today? He wasn’t too happy with the US telcos.
No – got a link? I have been at Tim’s Blog and read what he wrote prior. I’d love to see what he has to say.
Good evening ladies and gents! π
Hey Mark, you do web design? You should enter my logo contest…
Steve
Neither am I – you finding Kushnic was a revelation.
I’ve seen some people saying that Kushnic’s funded by the cable companies, but the one thing they all have in common is that they’re anonymous commenters….
Yeah Mark, I’ll email you a link or two . . . Tell Steve about your design.
Not any more Steve – It past me by ages ago. Khaled from Broken Kode did my Blog – now there’s a designer!!!
Ha! Liz, do you remember? Man, did I get a rash when I joined 9rules – about using a default template! Thank God for Khaled!
Hey Ad Lib,
It has all gotten more and more interesting as the days have gone by…
I have no idea if Kushnic is funded by cable co’s. Have you done any research on Teletruth?
Mark I checked out your site and what a great design. I really like it.
Thanks Steve,
I was truly blessed to be able to hook up with Khaled and we had a great time putting it together.
Not everyone has liked it. I love it and that is what matters π
Hey, I remember the good old 9rules days. We were kids then . . .
Steve,
You’re right. There is no other design like Mark’s anywhere.
Where the heck are Joe and Martin?
Only thing I know about him is that he’s now writing for the Niemann watchdog at Harvard University’s school of journalism.
Somehow, I think they’d know if he was paid by the cable companies to swift-boat the telcos – it would be ruinous for their credibility to let a paid shill set their agenda. Which is why I believe the anonymous attacks on Kushnic are just smear jobs with no basis in reality.
Thanks for the links Liz! I’ll be over there in between …
One thing that several people including Dana Blankenhorn ties into why Congress looks set to roll over for the telcos in letting them extract even more monopoly rent from being an infrastructure provider is payback for this resurrection…
Oh Boy – this is getting exciting, for me! Another great link – thanks Ad Lib!
I agree BTW – somehow it just doesn’t feel right to think he is a shill. Smear jobs are definitely on the agenda for anti-Neutrality folks tho’…
I must say I’ve have some interesting folks hanging around my blog everyday, reading the net neutrality page. Some have weird names and locked doors when I go to see who they are.
Tell us Liz – tell us! Please…..
I’m still in the BBQ phase, Liz,
Back soon,
Joe
Besides, I was on another plane of conversation
J.
Oh yea – when McCurry tried to do his “affable press secretary” spin over on the Huffington post and wound up with people with actual technical competence carving him a new one for his shilling for the telcos… well, he went wimpering back to the newspapers and signed on to the Smear the Bloggers faction of print media.
The impression I was left with was that it was profoundly shocking to him to be confronted with people with actual technical competence disagreeing with the spin he was trying to deploy. It’s usually what happens when communications/journalism majors try to lecture techies about technical subjects – except this time it happened in public and Mccurry was none too happy about it.
McCurry does have a point though – there’s a lot of us over on the technical side of the fence that could do with taking a few lessons in communication skills from Liz…
They have creepy names that have the word net in it and they advocate one side or the other, but I can’t tell which. Six or seven hits out of a hundred. I googled them they don’t exist.
It could get creepy.
Ad Lib,
How deeply have you read Kushnick at Nieman Watch? This is very interesting – especially in the comments where we find;
“A class action suit to recover the $200 billion the telephone companies accepted for high speed internet servicer would be a fine way to stop government giveaways to business.”
Love it!
That Huffington post was amazing. McCurry did get super hammered. He deserved all he got!
Oh, and definitely agreed – “a few lessons in communication skills from LizΓΒ’Γ’ΒΒ¬ΓΒ¦”
Googled them and they don’t exist? Hmmmm
Teletruth has filed some complaints with the FCC over this already – but it’s not scheduled for a hearing soon.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the FCC chairman wants to make sure that any official notice from their end comes after the elections…
I’m taking my lessons from the “New blogger page” π
Wow – Did you know, as part of this $200 Billion deal that
“Some services were also deregulated, including Call Waiting, which costs less than a penny to offer and yet earns $4-5 a month per customer.”
Sounds like a “bit” of profit there eh?
Whoa… I go to put the kids down for bed and I come back to a million and one comments… Lol
Ok maybe it is like 20 π
After the elections? Seems to me that this will have been exploded and the rubble will be getting cleaned up by the time elections roll around. I doubt it would wait that long. The groundswell is too much (at least it feels that way to me).
You haven’t seen anything yet Steve LOL…
Hey can I change the subject and get some advice. Finally decided to build a blog network in the hunting, fishing, and outdoor recreation and sports niche… I only have 4 blogs and one more coming next week.
Before I get too far into it I wanted to get some feedback on my umbrella site called Skinny Moose Media located here:
http://www.skinnymoose.com
A blog network is a new thing for me so I want some feedback. The text I wrote on that page will probably change a few times but I had to throw something up and that’s what I came up with.
Thanks dudes and dudettes π
ADLib,
Is there stuff on the NEW Blogger page I don’t know about??? π
Where’s Liz? Are you still Googling creepy names Liz?
Can you give us just one?
Steve,
I have one quick thought – what is with “negotiation?”
Lol, yea I am not sure about that either. Hopefully I can find something better to say than that. Sounds a little lame and cheezy right now.
Well, It feels like an instant roadblock to a working relationship if I am going to “negotiate” my pay plan to get started, know what I mean?
You may not mean that at all, but that’s what it sounds like having it there.
No Mark,
I did stop to look for a new boyfriend, but they were all too tall . . . then I was reading Steve’s Moose site, and well, the Moose and I were having a conversation.
Well, I was thinking about these titles from your New Blogger page:
Audience is Your Destination
Know Your Audience
Writing for a Diverse Readership
Turning Reluctant Readers into Loyal Fans
How To Deal With Negative Comments
Blog Basics 1: Comments and Comment Policies
Writing Killer Blog Posts
How Long Should Blog Posts Be?
How Often Should You Post?
Blogging DoΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’s
Blogging DonΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’ts
The Benefits of a Conversational Style
Consistency In Writing Frequency
Writing for a Diverse Readership
You could probably make that into a section called “Basic communication skills for bloggers” π
So… is the moose for or against Neutrality? hehe
And… hubby says what about “new boyfriend” LOL…
OK refresh the page and see my new changes. I reworded it a bit.
The moose has a name. He is Milton the Moose. He is very skinny…
Dear Lord that still sounds terrible. I’ll think of something over my next cup of coffee… π
Now Milton is better. Short, sweet and simple. From there we can talk…
AdLib
That’s a great idea. When Martin gets back, We’ll put him on publishing in. June 1st is the new start up for ePublishing Daily.
The moose wants the telcos and cablecoms to keep their hands off his antlers,
How about “contact us for details about the pay plan if you’re interested.”
And eliminate the rest?
Even simpler…
k.. just like the post suggests .. I’m not reading what’s above here as I’m just jumping in …. so, lesseee …
Oh – I learned something new today. Usually, to find something on a page in here, I just go CTRL-F to get that popup window .. or, the long way Edit/Find … but just figured out that if you hit [F3] … that same button pops up ..
Okay .. fast learner in most ways, not in other ways
HART, you are PC god among men.
Mark refresh and take a look. I like that better. Oh and hover your mouse over the moose. Say that 5 times real fast.
Liz,
Do you mean Martin has finally settled down? Hard to believe!
The telcos and cable co’s will add tiers to Milton’s antlers. Then they’ll spin his antlers so the rest of the moose community believes he’s the best thing since sliced bread!
Except they’ll be paying about $200 Billion for the privilege of knowing Milton and his antlers…
Who wants to do an interview with Milton about blogging for success? Then you can post it on your blog Lol
OK I confess, Milton and I have been drikin’
Looks good Steve! Maybe because I’m in FF but I get nothing hovering over Milton…
*drinkin π
Yea it only works in IE with me… FF doesn’t like me
* watching American Idol, working, and hitting refresh in this window
Ah, what better drikin buddy than a Milton haha…
Milton sure can hold his liquor. I couldn’t tell.
drikin is next best to drinkin’, especially with a moose
Oh he** it’s that time of night again – the trackback spammers are out, BRB…
Yes he usually can out drink me. You wait. give him a couple more hours and he’ll be chasing you with them antlers. He thinks its a game see, but boy it hurts when he wins.
Hey stop talkin trash about me Steve. You run like a girl.
Exactly – though I suppose Net Neutrality is a bad name for what we actually want.
I think we want Content Neutrality – as both Berners-Lee and Cerf have repeatedly pointed out, there’s a lot of potential profit in being able to steer users’ attention to a preferred service. And as soon as there’s potentially a profit available, business WILL go for it – it’s what we’re supposed to do. It would make economic sense for Verizon to start their own auction service and block eBay, and for AT&T to block Vonage or Skype. Which means they have a fiduciary duty to do it, given the regulatory environment for publically-held companies, yes?
You people over in the USA have had experience with that sort of thing before, it’s why you’ve got antitrust regulations in the first place. It’s why AT&T was broken up into the Baby Bells that are busy resurrecting the old AT&T system through mergers… except this time there doesn’t seem to be any oversight.
You’re cut off buddy!
Steve,
Maybe you should have picked another kind of site . . . maybe one with a kitten.
Yea but Milton can drag me home if I have too much to drink. I would be too heavy for a kitten.. π
Got a point there.
Yea I saved Steve’s life a few times. Dragged is sorry butt home when he couldn’t do it himself…
Hey you said you wouldn’t ever say anything about that.
Milton,
I didn’t know you could type! Welcome to the blog!
Thanks for the warm welcome. Steve taught me how to read and write and in return I drag his butt home in the evenings. I think it is a fair trade don’t you?
Funny, but I might not have a problem with “steer usersΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’ attention to a preferred service.” That feels like it would require a professional action by a professional salesman who wouldn’t have to lie to achieve his purpose. Heck, I’ve done similar things thousands of times. Hopefully for the right reasons – to benefit the consumer and the company.
I’d have to look deeper into “fiduciary duty to do it, given the regulatory environment.” That doesn’t feel right…
Milton go home. Or better yet wait out by that oak tree. When you see me come staggering out you know its time to go home…
So, who’s going to be in the next Technorati movie?
Well, we’ll accomplish one thing tonight with Milton and Steve. Ought to be real easy to double the number of posts from last week.
Geesh – a moose who can type and drink! What a world LMAO…
Al Gore!
Sorry about that guys. Didn’t mean for me and Milton to derail the topic. I think he left for now.
Technorati Warming!
All in good fun Steve. All Miz Liz asks is we be nice. Milton was nice.
SO! Whadda ya’ think about Global Warming??? I believe it…
Nope – don’t buy the whole global warming thing. I think we need to take care of our environment and learn ways to reduce CFC’s being released into our air but I still don’t buy the entire concept of GW
I’ll put in a vote for “yes” … global warming is real. Granted it’s hard to say that when it’s been freezing and miserable here, but I’d say it’s hard to deny those polar ice caps melting.
P.S. Steve introduced me to Successful Blog and now I’m here on open mike night!
This is off-topic .. but would something like this (open mic night) work with a tag-board type of blog page?
I hope there’s global warming .. Our winters are too long here in the Great White North
I saw something the other day that the ozone hole over the Antarctic is getting smaller.
Hi Ben! Move over you guys. Give him a place to sit.
Well, it’s one thing to steer user’s attention by writing persuasive copy, creating an outstanding service, or doing a Seth Godin-style Idea Virus buzz marketing campaign.
It’s quite another thing to steer the user’s attention by blocking access to the competition.
Imagine typing in ebay.com in your browser, and getting “Welcome to Verizon auctions, the auction service for Verizon users!” because your attention is being directed to Verizon’s preferred service?
How about typing in “rwebdesigns.com” and getting “Welcome to AT&T web design services – the professional’s choice for outstanding design!” on account of AT&T having a service that they’re under obligation to their stockholders to maximise profits from?
Howdy Ben, welcome to Liz’s blog π
Hey check your link you left in your name. It isn’t leading to your site for some reason.
Hart…you’re up here freezing your tail off with me in the Great White North? Ouch, you are, in Winnipeg, that’s even colder than Montreal most of the time.
Nice to make your acquaintance…
Welcome Ben – pls, for yourself – fix your URL
Do it for me too. I am a bit obessessive/compulsive when it comes to these things.
Oy, sorry about that, and thanks for noticing. The font of the URL text input is so tiny on my screen I didn’t notice it.
We’re good to go now. So other than global warming, what’s the topic of the moment?
I hear you AdLib,
It’s kind of another way of bait and switch. I get there and I think I’m somewhere else.
Ben, the snacks are in the sidebar. I’ll check your URL behind the curtain.
Ad Lib, I’m with you all the way!
“ItΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’s quite another thing to steer the userΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’s attention by blocking access to the competition.”
This is called thievery no matter how you cut it. Unprofessional, disrespectful, greedy, sinful – well, the whole negative 9 yards! If they are allowed to do this someone deserves a prison sentence as far as I’m concerned. I wouldn’t like your example to happen at all. That would be stealing money from me and I’d have no control at all. Wrong and illegal business actions!
Hi Ben … I was just surfing your pages (figured out the comma in the URL was the problem, but you fixed it now) … I have relatives your way ..
Hmm – Steve?
What do you know that these climate scientists don’t?
Sorry – that’s a bit snarky. Global warming is real though – the only thing we’re really discussing is how much of it is down to man-made factors.
Mark
I think the word that you’re looking for might be
FRAUD plain and simple.
LIAR works too.
AdLIb, I like it when you back off from being snarky. We’ll all have that zinger tendency . . . don’t we? Martin always catches mine. Where’d he go?
Ad Lib – did you know that link you offered up had an article about “An Inconvenient Truth?”
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/05/al-gores-movie/
I do believe the globe is warming if you will, but for the reasons they say nobody truly knows. It is too early to tell. It could be a normal cycle, it could be mankind, or it could be God…
Nobody really knows at this point so I wouldn’t jump out on a limb and say it was solely mankind causing it, or a normal cycle, or if God is doing it. π
It’s ok to be snarky. It is a hot debate this global warming thing.
Yup, and since we know that corruption exist even when there are laws against that sort of thing in place… well, I think it’s a seriously bad idea to legislate that it would be legal to interfere with the infrastructure functions to make a profit…
“FRAUD plain and simple.
LIAR works too.”
Ba Da Bing!
Ok,
Ma Bell, not AT&T
Call waiting for a penny?
Liz has a new boyfriend?
Drinkin’ Moose?
Steve?
T-rati
Where’s Liz ?
Global warming…
I think I caught up.
I wonder if Ben’s donkey knows Steves moose?
Ok, how come that posted twice????????
All my posts are awaiting moderation??? Oh man Liz cut me off. I knew I was getting abnoxious…
OK I think she let me back on. Scroll up for all my comments LOL
Mark,
I know about Steve’s Moose, but I must have missed Ben’s donkey…
Joe
Ba Da Bing! I know I’m going to be sorry I asked this, but do I win a prize?
The donkey and the moose know each other, but Ben and Steve don’t know that they do. It’s a long story. Milton told me about it earlier when we were talking.
Your posts are here, Steve. It’s you that’s in moderation. π
Check Ben’s URL, go to his Blog and you find this;
“IGotNewsForYou, an online business started by a few guys and a donkey.”
I swear!!!
HART, I hope you enjoyed the site. Relatives over here eh? Maybe I know them…*chuckle*
I’d say a good portion of global warming is man-made.
ΓΒ’Γ’Βˆ ΒItΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’s quite another thing to steer the userΓΒ’Γ’Β¬ÒΒΒ’s attention by blocking access to the competition.ΓΒ’Γ’ΒΒ¬?
I’d say under no circumstances is this really a good idea. People can too easily circumvent any “blocking” you might be doing and the bad will you’d get from both competitors and your own customers/site visitors would be unpleasant.
Ah Liz, our wonderful friend – you are the prize!
Oh I see it. Nice ass Ben… π
Steve,
It’s not you, Liz put a time warp on the comments section so she doesn’t miss anything. π
Joe
That’s okay Joe,
We all miss Ben’s donkey when he’s not here.
He’s a fine donkey.
Of my moose and Ben’s donkey mate and have a baby what would you call it?
mookey?
doose?
Ya Ben! Maybe you know them! (just like every American asks me when I go to Fargo or Grand Forks..) … Do you know my cousin Benny and Evelyn? :p // Just kidding .. although, they are in St. Laurent actually .. I just prefer to call it Montreal.
The donkey and the moose know each other? That’s news to me, although it wouldn’t entirely surprise me. I hear the moose is a lush and the donkey…well, he’s just an ass.
And I do have a fine ass, thank you. In fact if you scroll through the blog a bit more you’ll see a picture of me wearing no pants (for No Pants Day). It’s a long story.
PS> Don’t mean to be rude, but I just setup a tag-board chat on one of my pages .. (click my name) .. anybody feel like giving it a test until it crashes? : You don’t have to.
If it was a girl, I’d call her Emma. a boy DJ.
Benny and Evelyn, the Americans??? HART, I kmow them!!! All Americans know each other.
Mookey Doose!!!
Great name for a new Blog for a cowboy! hahahahaha
Private joke eh Liz?
HART…that’s pretty funny. I was actually born in St. Laurent. Family owns buildings there. Small world this Internet thing…
Don’t know Benny and Evelyn, but I’m sure my dad, uncle or the donkey do.
Yes Ben what a mighty fine ass you have. I won’t search for that picture of you with no pants on. No offense… Lol
Liz, one of my daughter’s is named Emma π
I love this, I just keep hitting refresh. It’s like reading a comic strip…
Don’t get me going or we’ll be naming the characters for the movie. I’m already tempted.
Mookey Doose home of the worlds largest hot air balloon show held daily out in the Big Sky lands of . . . IDAHO. Fooled you didn’t I? You thought I was going to say that other state.
I’m tricky that way.
Steve, Emma’s a lovely name.
Joe, It’s so nice you’re not caught in the Outer Limits this week.
A moose and a donkey walk into a bar…
Ok, now I’m frightened. I just got here and already there’s a moose, a donkey…children, a new blog dedicated to the moose and the donkey, there’s a dowry to pay (Steve’s trying to extort 3 goats from me, don’t ask…please…)
What PA???
Liz,
You gotta get that plug-in…
Mmm, well – Liz has this bit up on the Net Neutrality page.
That’s already technically possible with equipment from Cisco – the same technology they developed for the Great Firewall of China can easily be deployed for this sort of thing.
Naaah – Montana… hehe
Who here wants to see a video of me and the fam on the Thanksgiving Day 2005??
And no… Milton is not in this video….
I have still photos over music and then a couple short videos of the kids singing. ENJOY!
http://www.mainehuntingtoday.com/vid/Thanksgiving2005video.wmv
Liz .. I know all you Americans know everybody .. that’s why when I was in L.A. a few years back, everybody kept asking me if I knew Bob in Saskatchewan, or Joe in Edmonton or Sally in Kenora .. It was purely coincidence that I knew them all however .. we went to different schools together
I’m not so sure about that Outer Limits, Time Warp thing.
I missed 4 comments just typing the last comment.
No I don’t type that slow either
J.
I think I’ve seen that Ad Lib π
Yeah, I’ll get LOUDER about that.
Meanwhile, I’m feeling feisty. Could be time for some link leak . . .
Hello to anyone reading this. Yeah you out there!!!
If Technorati made a movie of this who would play the characters? Who would be me, Mark, Joe, Steve, Ben, HART, Martin, Milton, the donkey, everyone.
Step up say something. π
HART,
I’m not from Edmonton, I’m from Philadelphia, Pa USA
Joe
I’d hope so! Liz works hard to collate all that stuff – and if you go through the Net Neutrality page there’s a pretty interesting picture that develops….
Cisco equipment or not, I just don’t see companies going down that road and getting away with it for very long. I’m not entirely up on all the discussion on Net Neutrality from Liz, but companies trying this sort of thing are committing PR suicide. It’s one thing to work with the Chinese government to block websites there, it’s a completely different thing to block Americans or Canadians from accessing what they want.
If anything we’re gaining more and more access to stuff over time…
Liz,
You forgot the Moose
If I said that I should be played by Tom Cruise, would people laugh at me? *sniff*
The donkey could be played by Eddie Murphy, he’s already reprised the role of ass several times in his movies.
I won’t venture a guess on other people just yet, not until we’ve shared a few drinks at least.
lol .. Joe .. it was a different Joe . π
Movie Characters? I think I Vince Vaghn should play me .. he’s funny.
AdLib, That quote came from Mark’s blog.
Joe, the Moose’s name is Milton so he’s there.
Hart, I don’t know what a tag-board is.
Is everyone reading this too shy to talk even for a link.
Ben I think you’re cuter and nicer than Tom Cruise, pick again. π
liz .. click on my name above this comment – that’s a tag-board
Ok, Paul Giamatti.
I went for talent, not looks. (Damn me)
He seems like a decent, honest guy…and to some, maybe even cute! Hard working for sure…
* uploading Steve R’s 36MB video now… tick,tick,tick
Sean Connery for me!!!
BTW – Liz, my dear friend, did you know that you forgot to link something today?
Laffin’
Ad Lib just quoted it.
And then got snarky to me (I’m still laffin’)
http://rwebsdesigns.com/blog/archives/2006/05/the-internet-inventor-speaks-out/
I’m not so sure it’s crazy – considering that it’s already happened.
AOL dropped all email that mentioned dearAOL.org – and later backtracked, blaming “server difficulties” that somehow only affected email containing that specific url…
It’s not farfetched at all to have AT&T blocking Vonage traffic, is it?
Ya’ beat me to it! Still laffin’ …
Ok,
I would be played by Burt Reynolds, only with blonde hair (or any hair) six pack abs, 6’5″ (ok I’m only 6′) looking a little like Dirty Harry, but younger (Ok, I’m not that young).
I do have a mustache like Burt, but blonde and a lot thinner.
Can’t I dream like you do?
Yea it was a bit large – sorry folks..
Argh – obviously, the blood level in my caffeinestream is reaching dangerous levels.
I’ll be right back after putting on another pot.
Who would I have play me? Oh man… that is a tough question. Steve Martin, Tom Hanks….
MARK, What were you thinking???? Yeah, like I knew and I just wanted to see if anyone was paying attention. Me, Ms. perfect on every letter I type. Yeah right.
Tell me now that the link wasn’t hot? You’re no wimp. Gotta go fix that be right back.
Maybe it’s not AdLib, but I have to believe it’s going to bite those companies in the rear pretty quickly. It takes almost nothing for stories like that to explode all over the Internet and embarass the heck out of the companies trying to pull a fast one.
If companies (like cellphone carriers) want to offer deals/discounts for calls within their own network, ok, that’s fine (still cheesy in some ways) but to block traffic to certain places off one’s own network (whether Internet/cellphone/etc.) is just asking for it.
This already happened Ad Lib – a phone co already blocked Vonage;
http://www.networkingpipeline.com/60405195
And was fined 15G’s
Da Vinci Code anybody?
I read it…
Lot of contraversy out there over it…
Ben,
How will it get all over the Internet. If they shut the Internet off?
Whadya’ say Liz? Couldn’t heerya’… π
Liz I want one of your SOB button things…
AAaaaaargghhhh… I got to go change yet another diaper… be right back folks. And if I am not back in 10 send Milton after me.
Steve,
Fiction, may as well read Gene Roddenberry, it’s more plausible.
J.
Milton’s passed out over in the corner. Besides, he mumbled to me right before he passed out that that Steve guy would try to get him to change a diaper and it ain’t happening again tonight! He said get the donkey to do it.
Liz,
Steve probably deserves an SOB if for nothing else but changing diapers… Been there done that…
I takes a strong constitution to do that job.
Now I’ll admit I haven’t read up on the details of the issue, but I would be rather surprised if anyone could “shut off the Internet”. And if one carrier blocks something it would become fairly obvious to their subscribers I would think (unless they didn’t know they ever had access in the first place).
What’s Fiction?
Ben, it’s a lot more than what you see here.
Check this Blog out;
http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/
It’s much more about Telcos diverting or preventing access to web sites based on fees paid or not paid for QoS. And – its more than that also but that is a small nutshell.
You’re right about Steve and the diapers. i was thinking that about Steve’s Blog earlier today. Too Bad It Stinks π Does Anyone Know Why Steve’s Blog Stinks?
Is it the Diapers? the Moose?
Isn’t fiction when you rub two sticks together?
Actually, I think it was James Frey’s book no? “A Million Pieces” or whatever?
Ben,
I think most of the problem is that people don’t realize that this is happening. They won’t know until after the fact, just like AT&T Verizon et al tapping the internet for the government.
No one pays attention until after it becomes law, then it is difficult to change (if not impossible).
Oh man now that stuck. It was almost as bad as when Milt was a little baby moose and was still in diapers. Moose droppings sure do stick…
Now we know the truth behind Mookey Doose!
*stunk
ok I can’t spell
Why Steve’s Blog Stinks
Film at 11
$15k, for a company that had roughly 300,000 customers? Sounds like it’s less than they’d spend on postage in a week.
On the other hand, there’s the brazilian phone company that blocked Skype – the public outcry over that made them reverse themselves so fast they didn’t even have time to spin their PR properly before the block was lifted.
So there’s examples that it could go either way, I suppose –
Liz you nailed it
I’ll definitely read up more on the issue before talking out my donkey.
It doesn’t surprise me, I suppose, that big companies try and sneak things past consumers, but I still have to think it’s harder and harder to do particularly when it comes to blocking access on the Internet.
I’ll have to read up on that stuff in more detail later though, so I’ll refrain from commenting on anything except the donkey and the moose (or any other subjects that come up)!
AdLib,
Brazil owns the phone company. In the US the phone companies own Congress.
Get it straight.
I’ve been talking to Martin via email. He’s having real keyboard and mouse problems. He’s drinking strong coffee and working on things. That’s why he’s not here egging you on.
Tell Martin he may need to change the batteries π
and tell him we miss his input.
Hey Ben,
Boy did I just have a DOH! moment! At the top of this very page we’re all scribbling all over there is a wonderful link called “NET NEUTRALITY PAGE.”
Now there is one page chock full of info about the Net Neutrality issues!
I think Darren Rowse should show his face at open mic night… I know he is a busy dude but heck so am I…
4 kids, a wife, a cat, and 5 blogs, and I am singing karaoke baby…
Ah HA! Another Ba Da Bing moment!
“Brazil owns the phone company. In the US the phone companies own Congress.”
Mark,
Tell me you;re kidding, right?’
Joe, It’s definitely more than batteries. π
Darren who? (kiddin’)
He’s prob sleepin’ right now “over there…”
I’m glad someone was paying attention Mark
its noon where he is… i got it all figured out…. Lol
Yep, I’m kiddin Liz – on all counts π
Holy Shmoley am I late to the party or what?!
I have a general blogging question for any and all takers. I am looking at moving off Blogspot to a hosted site (I’ve got the domain name already purchased).
What recommendations or advice would all you exprienced bloggers give a newbie regarging hosting?
Thanks in advance for your input.
I’m not kidding, there really is a time warp here.
I think Liz shrunk the sun so as to make gravity lighter hence making time move faster.
Or, is that slooowwweeeerrrrrr????
We’ve been at this three hours??? Wow!
Very interesting getting to know new folks and hearing from old “faces” again eh?
Which, I hope, is one way to say, I’m about out of gas for today.
I’ve had a bunch of fun here tonight Liz and all. Thanks for a very enjoyable evening.
Sean oops… Mark
Aaaah, my fellow Savannanian will take over – yay! Hey Chris…
Chris – I would suggest looking at using WordPress. I’ve had a lot of success with it on another blog I run.
If you go to http://www.wordpress.com (or .org) they give a list of hosting companies they recommend. I haven’t used any but it’s usually pretty cheap ($7-$9/month) and they’ll setup WordPress automatically for you.
Good luck!
Yeah and it’s stinking hot down here. Already. (96 at 7:30pm this weekend) Yechthhppt!
Heh, yes – and I do hope you forgive me for my blonde moment earlier, Mark. It’s 5 am over here, and I’m feeling a bit slow today for some reason….
Yeah, Cris you’re moving as soon as you possibly can. You’ll be glad you did. It’s like rippin off the bandaid go go go go.
Joe I believe at that instance you become infinitely large and infinitely small simultaneously. Well that’s what Milton told me.
I think I am with Mark… time for Milton to drag my sorry butt home. I am coming down with some nasty virus. Stuffy nose, plugged up ears, scratchy throat. Milk tastes nasty…
Oh well off to get my rest. Night everybody…
Planning on WordPress. Have a template picked out. So, any gotchas on the hosting thing? Or is it a commodity and they are basically the same?
God, AdLib, How ARE you feeling? That head okay?
http://www.bluehost.com
I’m using a Reseller account .. makes things easier to create blogs on the fly..
I actually am using my own server. Well that isn’t exactly true… my friend owns it and we host people.
Steve,
At least with the stuffy nose you can’t smell the diapers… π
Nite
Joe
So, Steve I guess that would be self-serve, eh?
Joe, you are quite the optomist… But you are right. Maybe a realist.
I’ve been strongly considering the move to WordPress, but haven’t done it yet. Blogger is definitely frustrating (lack of categories, slowness, outright downtime). It was still the easiest to setup, but it might be good over the long-run for me to make the switch sooner rather than later.
Oh, I slept the day away, and I’ve kept the caffeine and nicotine coming.
The head feels a lot better, it’s not hurting at all anymore, even if it’s still feeding me some blonde moments like not remembering where I first read that quote π
Chris,
My only thought is about redirect’s. If you have been blogging for a while, make sure you set everything so your readers can find you.
Joe
Hey if anybody want to use me as a host I will set up their wordpress blog for them free of charge. Hosting will only cost you $12,462.12 for the year. Not bad eh?
Chris I checked out your blog. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life… π
I accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour in the Fall of 1999…
Joe, I’m not knocking down the doors yet with traffic. Only 50 or so a day. I’m willing to take the hit to start over as I am mainly blogging for the writing discipline.
I can catch most of the regulars. The one-offs will get replaced.
Still, I agree sooner is better than later…
Steve – I may take you up that offer. In exchange your free subscription to IGotNewsForYou is going to cost $12,462.12. Deal?
I’ll have my donkey lawyer call your moose attorney to work out the details.
I got to the end of my rope June of ’95
Are these US Dollars? The ones with the new fancy colors, even?
I mean if so, I might have to stay with blogger a while longer π
Yeah AL I know all about those in and outs of the brain that go with the head thing. I keep looking for my portable electro-shock, but I can’t seem to find it.
Yeah, Ben, sooner is better for SEO.
Ben, I have WMBS on that server. I noticed in the 10 days I have been using it the server has been rebooted like 3 times. I’ll host anybody on it but I wouldn’t say it is the best server out there. I would drop that price a bit just for you guys…
Oh what a nice guy I am…
Unless you are super big and popular .. there are ways to just redirect the existing feed to the new one (with wordpress plugins) .. and as for the people who bookmark you – just keep the blogspot blog alive – look what I did on http://PetLvr.blogspot.com that’s been dead since July 2005 and I still get hits ..
Chris,
You got it right. One of the reasons I haven’t done it yet is I don’t want to lose what I have.
I guess I’m just a fence sitter when it comes to change, it’s not one of my better attributes.
Joe
You know, I should apologize to our gracious hostess for calling my thinko’s “blonde moments”, even if that’s the vernacular.
Liz is a rather spectacular blonde, after all.
See. I knew this was the place to ask the qestion. It’s been bugging me for a couple of weeks. Who’se better than this bunch?
Liz, does the portable electric shock work on cats? Low Rider has been getting up early again…
I was on blogger until Liz had a Word with me about switching over – it would only get more painful the longer I waited.
I’m very, very glad I took her advice π
If I can find a way to get categories to work on Blogger the way I want, I’ll probably stick with it. I found something in beta today (labelr I think it was called) – waiting to hear from them.
At this point I have more important things to do than making the move from Blogger, but I’ll probably regret not doing it…we’ll see…maybe next week. I hate the fence sitting feeling.
I’m not a fence sitter. But I do have to negotiate with my wife. Our aggreement was my blog hobby would be budget neutral. And AdSence has a long (long, long, long) way to go to pay for hosting.
Ben and Chris .. also to note – if you move from blogger, setup your own domain .. you can retrieve 100% of the comments and posts directly into the new wordpress blog. It’s less painless than that liquid Band-Aid stuff..
I’m pretty sure you can get a free WordPress blog at http://www.wordpress.com, although it probably doesn’t come with all the bells & whistles.
Probably worth checking out though, Chris…
I’ve already got the domain (igotnewsforyou.com) so it probably wouldn’t be too painful to do.
You guys are convincing me…*grin*…tomorrow I’ll likely sign up with bluehost.com and make the move.
My biggest concern will be people who have my Feedburner feed, but maybe that’ll even be ok if I can keep the blog at igotnewsforyou.com/blog…
I am no fence sitter either, especially if it is picket…
WordPress is free for all
With feed burner I think you can just direct a different feed imput and not loose all your subscribers. That is if I read their info correctly…
Ok Liz, it’s time I said
It’s time for me to go to bed.
I can’t forget all those who did
contribute everything that they know
so I can sleep well, as part of the show
and remember those who contributed.
Berma Shave
Joe
Hey, Don’t worry about blonde jokes around me. I’m clueless most of the time, and the rest I’m hopelessly lost and wanderlng aimlessly.
I still have my personal blog on blogger, but that’s only because i’ve not talked some techie into moving for me to wordpress yet.
Besides I have no time to do all of the fixes to the 400 odd photos.
# 226
Nite all
J.
Sweet dreams, Joe
Sleepy swell. Thanks for coming. π
Yeah. It’s two minutes till pumpkin time. Oh-dark-thirty will be on me before I know it.
Let me know about the electro shock thing. Low Rider has figured out the squirt bottle. And the masking tape. He’s smart. Probably figure out how to shock me in the bargin. Maybe I better pass.
Thanks for the advice. I’ll be “moving” soon.
Enjoy!
Didn’t I say I was off to bed an hour ago?
Nighters! I will be counting Moose….
Hey, Chris,
The electro-shock feels really good especially after you stop. π
Email me in the morning.
Counting Moose eh? Steve.
Ahhhh 1.
Alright, I had a great time but it’s time to crash for me.
Was a pleasure meeting everyone and getting in on the action. I hope to do it again and hear from you all in the future.
Hey, Ben, This is a regular Tuesday night thing.
And we do lots of fun things during the rest of the week so I hope to see you around here lots of times between now and forever. π
OK I had to get up to brush my teeth and of course I had to walk by the computer and click refresh…
Night all!
Sweet dreams. See you, tomorrow!
Hmm, well, given that it’s 5:30 am here, I’d better go look for my bed too. I think I remember what it looks like, and what it’s used for…
Say hello to your pillow and use it nicely.
Sweet Dreams and feel well again.
Holy Cow – 230-plus comments – y’all ought to get a (chat) room! π
Hi Easton,
Why, it’s so much more fun to have the whole world see the sitcom unfolding!