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The Mic Is On: We’re Talking About eBooks!

August 5, 2008 by Liz 320 Comments

It’s Like Open Mic Only Different

The Mic Is On

Here’s how it works.

It’s like any rambling conversation. Don’t try to read it all. Jump in whenever you get here. Just go to the end and start talking. EVERYONE is WELCOME.
The rules are simple — be nice.

There are always first timers and new things to talk about. It’s sort of half “Cheers” part “Friends” and part video game. You don’t know how much fun it is until you try it.

Let’s Talk eBooks

The Internet almost drowns us in information. Savvy folks know that, with the right search skills, we find the answer to almost any question. Does it make sense to publish information in the form of eBooks and other information products? Tonight it’s about eBooks:

  • Do we read them?
  • Do we write them?
  • Do we buy them?
  • Do we sell them?
  • Has an eBook changed your life in any way?
  • ahem . . .

eBook Sample

And, whatever else comes up, including THE EVER POPULAR, Basil the code-writing donkey . . . and flamenco dancing (because we always get off topic, anyway.)

Oh, and bring example links to share —

–ME “Liz” Strauss

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Comments

  1. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:02 PM

    Hey Liz,
    Am I first, am I first?

    Reply
  2. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:02 PM

    Hiya! Joe!!
    Yep! You win!

    Reply
  3. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:03 PM

    Not only am I first, I seem to be alone. πŸ™

    Reply
  4. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:03 PM

    Hello Liz and Joe! Happy Tuesday to you!

    Reply
  5. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:03 PM

    You’re not alone. I’m with you!

    Reply
  6. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM

    Hi Marti!
    Do you read eBooks?

    Reply
  7. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM

    Ok,it’s just you and me kid.
    Oh, just in case, Debra Loved your eBook (and so did I)

    Reply
  8. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:05 PM

    Hey, Joe, look behind you!
    Marti’s here!

    Who’s Debra?

    Reply
  9. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:07 PM

    Hey Marti, I didn’t see you sneak in. Want a Klondike?
    Liz, Debra is the person who won my blog v website contest!

    Reply
  10. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:07 PM

    I wrote an e-book (which is still available for free) for building a Squidoo lens to promote your book. It is at:
    http://www.lulu.com/content/454213

    Reply
  11. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

    And yes, I’ve read a lot of them. I think it is a great tool.

    Reply
  12. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

    Ahhh! Joe, I knew that name sounded familiar. I also knew no Debra lived in your house. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  13. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:09 PM

    Marti,
    How many copies of your ebook have been downloaded?

    Reply
  14. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM

    OK, Liz, I’m finally stepping into open Mic night. Hello one and all!
    Lori

    Reply
  15. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM

    Thanks Joe! A Klondike would be divine – it’s hot and humid here.

    Reply
  16. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:11 PM

    Greetings SpaceAgeSage! Nice to meet you!

    Reply
  17. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM

    Welcome to the Sage!
    Are you writing an eBook yet?

    Reply
  18. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM

    Thanks, Marti — it’s easier to type Lori, if you want.

    Reply
  19. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM

    Hey Lori,
    Jump on in, the water’s fine. πŸ™‚
    want a Klondike?

    Reply
  20. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM

    I’m hoping to wrap up an e-book this month.

    Reply
  21. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM

    Lori,
    What’s it about?

    Reply
  22. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:14 PM

    Joe, Yes on the Klondike — unless I’m totally missing an inside joke!

    Reply
  23. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:14 PM

    Hi everyone, popping in before I melt.

    Reply
  24. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:14 PM

    Liz, I think several hundred (probably because it is free – LOL)

    Reply
  25. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM

    Hi all – thought I’d wander over and see what’s new. eBooks are great, but I’ve neglected them the last two years or so. I used to read them more when I had a non-wireless PDA! πŸ˜€

    Reply
  26. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM

    Hi Glenda!
    Guess I won’t ask how you are!

    Reply
  27. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM

    The book is on self defense skills for everyone, but not the physical skills. It teaches overlapping 15 skill sets anyone can use.

    Reply
  28. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:16 PM

    Hello! I’m late – having a bit of a computer problem.

    Reply
  29. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:16 PM

    Marti,
    Will you post a link here?

    Reply
  30. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:17 PM

    Hi Rick,
    Welcome . . . what sort of eBooks did you read?

    Reply
  31. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:17 PM

    I’ve never read a ebook – but I know I should get Liz’s someday.

    Reply
  32. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:18 PM

    Hey Liz, mind if I go sit in the bar fridge? Darrell won’t let me sit in ours.

    Reply
  33. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:18 PM

    Hello Lori, Glenda and Rick!

    Reply
  34. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:18 PM

    Liz,
    This was actually pretty early on, they were more books off the Gutenberg (sp?) project than any current eBooks.

    Reply
  35. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:18 PM

    All of my books (including the free download) are available at:
    http://stores.lulu.com/martilawrence

    Reply
  36. charlene says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:19 PM

    Hi all. Can’t stay long tonight, but wanted to chime in to congratulate Liz on her latest eBook and share that I read 1-2 a month, mostly on professional topics (marketing is a biggee).

    Reply
  37. charlene says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    Must also confess that I often print eBooks to read – can’t seem to lose the habit of writing in books!

    Reply
  38. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    HI Trisha!
    I’ve read a few. They grow on ya!

    Reply
  39. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    As one of those anti-social IT geeks that liked hardware just a little too much, it was mostly just to explore the technology than anything.

    Read some Zane Grey’s and a few others and got tired of reading screens of 40 words at once.

    It’s changed drastically since then of course!

    Reply
  40. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    Have their been any good research on e-books —
    who reads them, why, how many there are, etc?

    Reply
  41. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    It’s been a while since I visited comment night (mainly because it’s actually night here: 2.15 am now). Anyway, I’m awake today and the topic is very appealing too!

    Yes I read e-books. I’ve read a great share of them. My opinion on them differs a lot, and I tend to like the ones I bought more than the ones that are for free.

    There are some great free e-books out there, but the majority is low-effort copy-paste save-as-pdf garbage that you pay for with an email address.

    I have also written an e-book (not a free one). And I took great care to make sure that it’s worth its money. So I had it proofread, it has a proper cover, it has nice graphics and a good layout.

    I’ll stop now, since I have the longest reply so far…

    Oh…and hi Liz!

    Reply
  42. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    OK Have THERE been any HA

    Reply
  43. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:21 PM

    Hey, Charlene,
    I like to print them too . . . easy to take to the beach. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  44. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM

    charlene, thanks for the reminder. Congrats Liz on your lastest eBook. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  45. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM

    Hi Trisha, Charlene and Lodewijk

    Reply
  46. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM

    I suppose I could write one on butterfly gardening someday.

    Reply
  47. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM

    Yes, many congratulations to Liz!

    Reply
  48. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM

    Oops…Hi Marti! Thanks for the welcome. And hi everyone else πŸ™‚

    Reply
  49. charlene says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM

    Would love to stay and chat, but must return nose to grindstone…sigh. Be well everyone! xoxox

    Reply
  50. Michael A. Stelzner says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:24 PM

    Hey Liz (long time no talk!);

    I write ebooks and read them.

    In fact, I even paid $99 for an ebook that I found just OK.

    The best one I ever purchased and the one that really changed my business was by Andrew Goodman about PPC advertising.

    Mike

    Reply
  51. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:24 PM

    I have printed some of them, but I got out of that habit. Reading from a screen is not ideal, but I got used to it.

    Reply
  52. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:24 PM

    I’ve been finding it interesting on how many bloggers have started writing eBooks. A good fit for sure. I just hadn’t thought much on it.

    Of course, one should keep there blog current too though eh? πŸ˜‰

    Reply
  53. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:25 PM

    Hi Sage,
    I’m not finding much about them. I do know that only 240,000 kindles have been sold.

    Reply
  54. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:25 PM

    Never thought of printing them out. Guess it seemed like it defeated the purpose. Actually, it sounds like a good idea.

    Reply
  55. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:26 PM

    Great point, Lodewijk. I get so annoyed with the “get my free ebook, but first subscribe to my newsletter” tactic. And, then some are riddled with errors etc. Ick.

    Reply
  56. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:26 PM

    Geez, that’s not a lot of Kindles. I thought there had been more.

    Reply
  57. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:26 PM

    Hello to Michael A. Stelzner.

    – – –

    I don’t think I could bring myself to spend a lot of money (more than $25) for an e-book. Do y’all think there is a “tipping point” on price that turns a lot of customers off?

    Reply
  58. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:27 PM

    Thanks, Liz —

    Another question, then –how do you decide whether to publish and sell on your own or use something like Leo at Zenhabits started?

    Reply
  59. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:27 PM

    You’re right Rick, the blog needs content too πŸ™‚ But I started the e-book for another reason. It grew from blog posts that became too long to publish, or that needed more context to be effective. And for that the format of the e-book was better than that of a blog.

    Reply
  60. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:28 PM

    Hi Mike!
    Great to see you!

    Yeah the price doesn’t necessarily match the quality.

    Reply
  61. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM

    I don’t mind reading online, but I know a lot of people don’t care for it. I’ve even heard you should use sans-serif fonts for online books. Supposedly the little feet on serif font is good for print but annoying online. I never noticed much difference, I just remember reading that somewhere.

    Reply
  62. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM

    The first e-book I bought was a complete rip off, so I have been leery ever since. I plan to buy Liz’s soon though!

    Reply
  63. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:30 PM

    Hiya, Lodewijk!
    Sorry you’re still up! Glad you’re here!

    Reply
  64. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:30 PM

    @Michael Stelzner: You said: “The best one I ever purchased and the one that really changed my business was by Andrew Goodman about PPC advertising.” How much was that e-book?

    Reply
  65. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM

    Lodewijk,
    What’s your ebook about?

    Reply
  66. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM

    Lodewijk, excellent point. I was mostly referring to myself being in that classic blogger catch 22 situations of “being to busy to blog” πŸ˜‰

    eBooks are an excellent way to publish those works that require more space and time than a post!

    Reply
  67. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM

    I wonder what the consensus on the spelling is going to be eventually.

    eBook | e-book | ebook ?

    Reply
  68. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM

    Bye Charlene!

    Reply
  69. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM

    @Lodewijk If it makes you feel any better (probably not), when I am working out of Hawaii, I’m caught in peak work hours (my 2PM is Chicago 7PM) to participate.

    Reply
  70. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    I would opt for “ebook.”

    Reply
  71. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Actually, this is a timely topic because I have “Creating Accessible Ebooks” on tap for the Accessibility 100 series. What are most people using to create ebooks? Is Adobe still as popular? Or, are there more attractive alternatives?

    Reply
  72. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Liz, it’s about discovering your Personal Core Values.

    Reply
  73. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Ebooks are also good for gathering together a larger body of work that people would have to travel all over your blog to find and read.

    Think about it. would you rather read 32 pages edited into a book, or 32 blog posts in a row. Now imagine those 32 posts are related but spread out across a blog.

    Reply
  74. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:34 PM

    Lodewijk – there is a site called e-Reader that specializes in e-books, and they use lower case e with a hyphen (I think…I’ll feel really silly if I misremembered that)

    Reply
  75. Michael A. Stelzner says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM

    I think it’s all about the content when it comes to value.

    If it has precisely what you need right now, what would you be willing to pay??

    Reply
  76. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM

    Marti,
    What are the rules for publishing there?

    Reply
  77. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM

    Hi Linda – my newest Twitter friend!

    Reply
  78. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:36 PM

    I don’t know, Liz. They carry big name authors like Stephen King and James Patterson. Hang on and I’ll see if I can find the link, I get their newsletter…..

    Reply
  79. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:37 PM

    Hi Marti

    Reply
  80. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:38 PM

    Marti, yes, fonts without the little feet improve readability, even on paper. Arial 12 pt is my standard for work stuff.

    Reply
  81. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:38 PM

    Duh on me. The site is http://www.ereader.com/

    And I was wrong (yet again – LOL) They use “eBook” as their preferred spelling

    Reply
  82. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:38 PM

    Glenda,
    I use Click to Convert to make pdf files and have you seen this? click on the screenshot of the ebook.

    https://www.successful-blog.com/1/great-find-yudu-freedom/

    Reply
  83. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:39 PM

    Marti,
    I think I found e-Reader. But they spell it eReader and eBook…sorry.

    e-reader.com is a parked domain.

    Reply
  84. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:40 PM

    See, now I couldn’t see reading a novel as an ebook. Shorter works that fill niches like most here are working on, but not full novels… I like the feel of an analog book for that.

    Reply
  85. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:40 PM

    Does anyone know of reputable reviewers of eBooks out there — either as bloggers or not?

    Reply
  86. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:41 PM

    Part of what turned me off on early ebooks was the attempt of pushing specialized readers just for the task. Since PDFs are nearly ubiquitous, it really changes that perception for me.

    Reply
  87. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:41 PM

    No Glenda, on this one Marti’s got it the right way,
    The serif fonts improve readability on paper by almost 70 percent. Times Roman is the most usual choice. That’s why most books use serif type and why typefaces that have “book” in their name, such as Bookman or Century SchoolBook are serif fonts. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  88. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:42 PM

    I agree on that one Rick. Novels and paper are a happy couple. I couldn’t get the same experience reading from a computer screen.

    Reply
  89. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:42 PM

    Hi, Liz and crew!

    Reply
  90. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:43 PM

    It’s the actor playing Sheila!!
    Can’t be Sheila. She’s never here this early. πŸ™‚ [big grin]

    Reply
  91. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:44 PM

    Yes, I like bound and printed books for novels, but I’ve never tried a hand held reader…it might be OK.

    Reply
  92. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:44 PM

    Marti,
    I hear the key to hand held readers is having automatic scrolling and setting it just right.

    Reply
  93. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:44 PM

    interesting, Liz! My concern is in terms of accessibility and how well yodu would work with screen readers. For many, PDF = pretty darn frustrating!

    Reply
  94. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:45 PM

    Hi Sheila!

    Reply
  95. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:45 PM

    Hey Marti, thanks for being a fan today on our new Every Dot Connects Facebook page. Yay!

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Austin-TX/Every-Dot-Connects/42642560800

    Reply
  96. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:45 PM

    Hi Sheila, nice to bump into you here.

    Reply
  97. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:46 PM

    Hi Rick, ‘sup?!

    Reply
  98. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:46 PM

    Lori, you could try to Google eBook reviews – I don’t know of any right off the bat, although many of the blogs that review POD will read your work if you send it to them in a PDF.

    Reply
  99. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:46 PM

    @Linda missed your comment. Those are awkward times too. Being awake knowing that you miss the conversation might be worse than sleeping through it. But Hawaii would make up for it!

    Reply
  100. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:46 PM

    ok, I need to restart my computer – having some weird problems. Hopefully, i will be back later.

    Reply
  101. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:47 PM

    Yeah, hand-held readers… I used to have some on my PDAs over the years, but they only had one font size and I was constantly scrolling. Things like the Kindle make it easier, but I find that just having my laptop with me 98% of the time is more useful to me. I just like that big screen I guess.

    Reply
  102. thomas knoll says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:47 PM

    ebooks just don’t do it.. they’ve been way over pushed by people trying to make an extra buck off their website, and feel good about how many people download them… but they don’t have any interaction with those ‘downloaders’ (maybe maybe ‘readers’) I’d rather see the world of well written wiki’s explode onto the scene.

    My all time favorite online book: The Django Book

    best format
    best execution
    best collaboration

    just plain hawt

    Reply
  103. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM

    #93 — Glenda,
    Great feedback, I’ll tell them you said so. That’s a fabulous point.

    Reply
  104. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM

    @Sheila, just getting out and about for a change. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  105. thomas knoll says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM

    (and hi kids! good to see so many of you, after so long)

    Reply
  106. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM

    Hi, Lodewijk, how are the Netherlands? I miss living in South Limburg.

    Reply
  107. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM

    Thanks Marti –I’ll check into that.

    Reply
  108. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM

    You’re more than welcome, Sheila!

    I read the blog of literary agent Nathan Bransford, and he said he recently got a Kindle and was very pleasantly surprised at how much he likes it.

    Reply
  109. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:51 PM

    @Trisha
    Let me know if you are still having problems. Maybe I can help.

    Reply
  110. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:52 PM

    Crossing fingers that Trisha makes it back πŸ™‚

    Reply
  111. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:52 PM

    @Sheila We’re still here. Trying to keep our feet dry (although not in the town I live in, we’re above sea level).

    And we’re noticing the effects of changes in the climate. Mild winters, warm spring, wet summer and nice autums. No more snow though…

    Reply
  112. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:54 PM

    I just checked and I see eReader.com doesn’t yet have a review/voting system.

    An IMDB or Amazon type aggregate of votes would go a long way to popularizing ebooks by making people feel safe about value for money. Don’t you think?

    Of course word of mouth or already trusted author (like Liz) works.

    Reply
  113. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:54 PM

    Hello Liz & co….

    Reply
  114. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM

    Hi Carter!
    I should get you to write an eBook!

    Reply
  115. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    Welcome Carter and Thomas. Either of write or read eBooks?

    Reply
  116. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    I’ve marketed them and sold them…just haven’t gotten around to writing them…

    Reply
  117. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    #105!!!
    Everyone Thomas Knoll is here!!

    Hi Thomas!!

    Reply
  118. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    @Lodewijk Working out of Kauai (on and off through out the year) makes up for a lot.

    Reply
  119. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    I’ve read a few–the whole market has changed in recent years (for the better I think) with actual mainstream books

    Reply
  120. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:57 PM

    @Marti–and yourself? What’s your experience with ebooks?

    Reply
  121. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:58 PM

    Linda, I agree – reader reviews are always a help. I suppose since they carry “big name” books, maybe they think folks will have done their research already, but it’d still be a nice feature.

    Reply
  122. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 7:59 PM

    Liz re 102,sorry, with my background and experience, accessibility is always on my mind. People don’t realize how it runs through every facet of life. Sometimes it does stop a conversation tho – wish I could shut it off at times!

    Reply
  123. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM

    Wow, I am hopping back and forth between twitter and here like a bunny rabbit – LOL

    Reply
  124. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM

    Since Liz fluttered, I just checked out Thomas Knoll. Cool dude. I’m following you on Twitter now.
    @lindasherman

    Reply
  125. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM

    Lodewijk, that’s good weather for wadlopen up on the Waddenzee islands, but not so good for the Elfstedentocht speed-skating race on the canals. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  126. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    @Glenda re:122 & 102: You’re right about the just-in-it-for-money effect…

    Cool thing is the same “marketing techniques” can and should be used for beneficial books..

    Reply
  127. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    @Linda I agree on the voting system. And on Kauai too πŸ™‚

    Reply
  128. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    I’m back! Computer is ok again! It was weird – no matter what I copied when I pasted it just kept pasting the same thing again and again. And it was some link to update xp/vista – kind of made me nervous. but everything seems ok now!

    Reply
  129. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    Thomas, what’s your twitter name? I’ll be a follower if you don’t mind

    Reply
  130. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    Hi Liz. Hi everyone! I’m curious about this topic as had considered doing an ebook myself.

    Reply
  131. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:02 PM

    Anyone else here written one or know someone (besides Liz πŸ™‚ that’s written an ebook?

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  132. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

    NO need to apologize, Glenda,
    I was sincere about being grateful to have the feedback. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  133. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

    Hi everbody!

    I have a love/hate relationship with ebooks. It’s such a convenient way to carry books around, especially since I usually have my laptop, but I haven’t found anything that matches the interface of a physical book.

    Reply
  134. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:03 PM

    Speaking of best fonts to use, has everyone seen this video? Very funny!
    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1823766

    Reply
  135. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Glenda, no worries about reminding us about accessibility issues. Since my husband’s stroke, I have been stunned at some of the places that don’t have handicap access. It doesn’t cross most people’s minds until it gets personal. It is personal for you and I commend you for your courage and strength.

    Reply
  136. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    @marti @thomasknoll

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  137. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    @Sheila True. It’s been 11 years since the last Elfstedentocht, but it hasn’t even come close to it in that time. And it’s more endurance than speedskating…200 kilometers πŸ˜‰

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  138. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    While we’re at it, I started a thread today on the mediabistro.com BBS, about whether it’s even worth it anymore to publish through a traditional publishing house. For later perusal:

    http://www.mediabistro.com/bbs/cache/t40391_1.asp

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  139. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Are there any benefits to publishing something as both an ebook and a printed book?

    Reply
  140. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM

    @marti I went over to Twitter to alert Connie Bensen @cbensen that we are talking about ebooks because I know she likes to useful ebooks on social media. Trouble is I think she may be mostly on Plurk these days, and I’m not there.

    Reply
  141. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM

    #131 @Carter I wrote an eBook. And I know several other bloggers who have too. Most of them sell them, instead of providing them for free.

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  142. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM

    @Rick I thought it might be a good idea to do a chapter or two that stand alone as ebook, then have printed book for anyone wanting more info. Your take on it?

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  143. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM

    Carter re 131 – I have a free ebook with excerpts from my autobiography [no newsletter subscription required!], and my autobiography I’ll Do It Myself is available in pdf format.

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  144. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:09 PM

    Hi Rick,
    I think the benefits are that some books are meant to be held and read. Some are meant to be passed out at a presentation. Some are for personal consumption of information. Everyone decides which is which for themselves. πŸ™‚

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  145. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:09 PM

    Hi Rick, Delaney (hope I didn’t miss anyone) Welcome back Trisha!

    Thanks Linda I will tweet Thomas
    πŸ™‚

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  146. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:09 PM

    @glenda re 143: Where do I go to get it? Just in case my email address is mjcarter@thrivetime.com

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  147. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM

    Connie Bensen had recommended this ebook to me back in February when I was getting my blog started.
    http://www.briansolis.com/2008/01/new-ebook-art-and-science-of-blogger.html

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  148. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:11 PM

    Rick, I’ve got all my books at Lulu available as both print and download. I think one advantage (for buyers) is that eBooks are cheaper

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  149. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:11 PM

    Delaney – I’ve been wanting to ask you about something I saw on your site about critical thinking skills – can’t find it now though.

    Reply
  150. Joe says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:11 PM

    You’ll get no eBook from me
    I can’t write that well you see

    I can barely make up a rhyme
    And it always takes too much time

    But best of luck to all you writers
    conquer the baddies and smite the smitters.

    Burma Shave

    Nite Liz
    Nite All

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  151. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:13 PM

    Gosh, Joe,
    Sorry to see you retire so early.
    Sleepy swell.

    Reply
  152. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:13 PM

    Bye Joe! Fabulous to see you – as always! Sweet dreams!

    Reply
  153. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    @Trisha Rubric for? Article on?

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  154. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Delaney – I really have not take, yet. That’s why I asked. πŸ™‚

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  155. Jeff Sable says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Hi Liz!

    jeff

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  156. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Good night, Joe.

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  157. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:15 PM

    Hiya! Jeff,
    Gonna write an eBook soon?

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  158. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    Hello Jeff!

    Reply
  159. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    Liz and Marti – Options! That’s a good thing.

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  160. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    @Rick I think some of your blogposts would make for a good ebook.

    Reply
  161. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    [Liz, another comment fell in the fish pond. Would you save it, please? ]

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  162. Lodewijk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

    Not quite the exit as Joe, but I’m calling it a night too. Nearing 3.30 am, and I do need some sleep…

    Reply
  163. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

    Delaney,
    You should have your students write eBooks as a class paper. πŸ™‚

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  164. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

    Liz, I think I saw this question earlier but didn’t catch the answer. Is your ebook selling well? (hope this isn’t too personal)

    Reply
  165. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM

    Bye, Joe!

    Reply
  166. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM

    Cool idea Liz. Make the students into subject matter experts! Might work well for the graduate Leadership class I’m teaching this fall.

    Reply
  167. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM

    G’night Lodewijk – delightful to get to chat with you!

    Reply
  168. thomas knoll says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:19 PM

    heyo, sorry… I’ve got 8 things going at once, so just hoping back in. (I’m @thomasknoll on twitter, fyi) And I still stand by my first comment (#102) when it comes to ebooks. I wish I had more to say, but that’s it so far.

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  169. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:20 PM

    Sorry, I missed the question about my eBook sales. Hmmm? What’s selling well. I think it’s doing really well.

    2-3 a day and already 3 really wonderful clients. πŸ™‚

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  170. Jeff Sable says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:20 PM

    I don’t have the attention span nor the volume of useful or interesting content to write an eBook.

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  171. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:21 PM

    Delaney – sorry, I don’t know – I’ll send an email sometime about it.

    Reply
  172. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    Delaney – Thank you!

    I’ve completed one, putting the series on notescript into handbook format, but it languishes as I waffle between self-publishing and trying to find a publisher.

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  173. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    Steady sales…I would say that’s good. I don’t expect my book to make me rich but it does attract universities that then want me to do a workshop for their faculty.

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  174. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:23 PM

    Rick,
    I’m sorry I missed the topic. . . .

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  175. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:23 PM

    Delaney,
    What’s the title of your book, again?

    Reply
  176. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM

    @Rick I’ve self-published before. Be glad to answer questions on the process.

    Reply
  177. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM

    Jeff, I have read some pretty awful eBooks – I suspect you could do better!

    Thomas, I friended you at Twitter.

    I think the best use for an eBook is as instruction. You can include links and photos or graphics that might actually be more useful being read ON a computer.

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  178. Keli Whidden says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM

    I have downloaded and read every free ebook I can about SEO, social networking, Web 2.0 and anything I can that is related. I appreciate that they are out there.
    As I get a better hold on things and the learning curve starts to level off, I suspect delving deeper will require longer, more involved and likely paid for ebooks.

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  179. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM

    Thomas —
    Why do you write “but they donÒ҂¬Ò„’t have any interaction with those ΓƒΒ’Γ’Β‚Β¬Γ‹ΒœdownloadersÒ҂¬Ò„’ ?

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  180. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    Liz – It was a series I did a couple of years ago.
    http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/category/notescript/

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  181. Rick Mahn says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    Huh, I duck out for a few minutes talking with my wife Amy and so many great people join in! Hi there Thomas buddy – how’s SF treating you? We miss you in MPLS you know.

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  182. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    Carter, my comments with links always fall in to the fish pond. To find my book [all formats], wander over to my blog, then click I’ll Do It Myself: The Book.

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  183. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:26 PM

    Hi Keli,
    Welcome . . . what patterns do you seen in the variety of eBooks you’ve encountered. What do you wish they would get right. πŸ™‚

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  184. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:26 PM

    @Glenda

    Thanks!

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  185. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

    Hi, everyone:
    I am also writing an eBook, but it is taking me forever to finish it. I have it half done on paper, need to transfer it to my laptop.

    I plan on using Lulu for self-publishing, and the hard part is marketing.

    I do read them as well. Not too many, but an occasional one here and there. The last one i read was on the topic of blogging.

    Nice to meet everyone. Name is Missy.

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  186. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

    Liz: Taking Back the Classroom: Tips for the College Professor on Becoming a More Effective Teacher.

    I’m working on a second book now.

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  187. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM

    To anyone on Twitter who isn’t already my friend, I am “Marti_L”

    I blog at http://enterthelaughter.com

    My books (including eBooks) are available at:
    http://stores.lulu.com/martilawrence

    This ends the blatant self-promotion portion of our program – LOL

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  188. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:28 PM

    Hi Missy! Hello Keli!

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  189. Char says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:29 PM

    Happy Tuesday all! I have thought of writing an eBook but don’t really know where to start or what I would write one on.

    Reply
  190. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:30 PM

    Hi Missy
    Welcome! What’s your eBook about? Maybe we can help market it. Marti knows a lot about lulu.com

    Reply
  191. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:30 PM

    Hi Char. You have entire blogs full of things to write a book about.

    Reply
  192. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:30 PM

    Hi Missy, Keli and Char! What an awesome crowd tonight!

    Reply
  193. stephentrepreneur says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:30 PM

    Recently I found an eBook of interest. I read through a few chapters online, slowly wearing out my eyesight. Has anyone else noticed that staring at a monitor reduces your blink-rate? Yes, that’s right, you don’t blink as often. Consequently, the human eye ‘drys out’ quicker. Blinking, as I understand the principle, allows our eyes to ‘wet’ themselves, thereby allowing free movement to the eyeball against the skin it’s held within.
    Upon noticing that the Author of the book had a comments area, I asked if the book was available to purchase. Apparently it was not, but he had seriously considered the option.
    I indicated that if it were, I would purchase it at the next available opportunity.
    Within one week I had a response that he had discovered Lulu.com, and that I could make my purchase.
    A few days later I became the proud new owner of Mortal Ghost by L.Lee Lowe. Want to download the free version? Yes, you can!

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  194. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:30 PM

    Hey Char!

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  195. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:31 PM

    Hi Char!
    Welcome!
    Can we set a time to talk tomorrow!
    I’ll get you going on an ebook . . . in fact that’s what I want to talk about. πŸ™‚

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  196. Linda Sherman says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    I gotta run. It was great seeing you all. Fortunately I can check back later so I won’t miss the info in your comments.

    Reply
  197. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    #193
    Welcome Stephen! Great to see you!

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  198. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    Sheila – I know you from somewhere else – was it blogher?

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  199. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    Delaney and Marti – Did you buy your own ISBN numbers, or use your POD publisher’s ISBNs? Would it make a difference in sales?

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  200. thomas knoll says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:33 PM

    headed out the door for a bit, but I’ll check back in.

    good to see you rickmahn

    spaceagesage – I mean, an ebook isn’t a conversation, it’s a sermon.

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  201. thomas knoll says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

    and, liz, as always a pleasure… thanks for the reminder and the invite! (I should put this on my calendar or something!!!)

    Reply
  202. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:34 PM

    My ebook is on the topic of blogging. It is called “101 Random Blogging Tips For Newbie Bloggers”, and covers the gamut from picking a domain name to writing content to blog platform, and everything else in between.

    I need to get it done, but procrastinating all the way to the bank.

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  203. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:35 PM

    @Rick You can buy your own (usually buy these in groups of ten #s so that you can update/do different versions etc).

    Reply
  204. Char says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:35 PM

    I knew you all would say that! Liz – I sent you an email about tomorrow.

    Rick – what topics would be of interest though?

    Reply
  205. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:36 PM

    @ Missy Sounds like a great topic!

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  206. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:36 PM

    Riuck, I like to continue to edit my books, (plus I’m poor – LOL) so I have never purchased ISBN’s. I was able to sell on Amazon because I had a Marketplace account. (No longer doing that though since husband’s stroke and grandma’s Parkinson’s take up most of my time)

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  207. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:37 PM

    Char!
    You could write about
    being a work at home mom

    going from print to online design

    all of those fabulous organizational tools you’ve made

    ways to work successfully with clients.

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  208. Keli Whidden says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:38 PM

    Hi Liz, great questions! I agree with Marti in #177 that they are a great place for instruction and including links to further information. So far, I have encountered a couple of patterns: 1. Those I have downloaded seem to written with the intent of truly helping; and, 2. There seems to be enough left hanging to get you back to the site, blog, or possibly to purchase (I personally think that is smart).
    Early on I got one or two that were primarily advertising…if I could ask them to get one thing right it would be to save the advertising, my downloading the book with your links, name, logo etc. and sharing with my colleagues and friends is great WOM in and of itself. I don’t tend to pass those on.
    Oh, and thank you for the warm welcome!

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  209. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:38 PM

    Well darn. Daughter just called from the mall and she and her friend need a ride home, so I am going to have to leave. I have no poetry like Joe, but it certainly was delightful to get to chat with all of you. May you have much peace joy and success in your lives!

    And I see I mis-spelled Rick’s name – so sorry!

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  210. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:39 PM

    Marti, you’re on Amazon? I’ve been going in circles trying to get on there.

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  211. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:39 PM

    Keli,
    Do you not have a blog yet? There’s no link to your name.

    Reply
  212. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:39 PM

    @Missy
    According to Technorati, the number of blogs had grown to 112.8 million by July 2008, with 175,000 new blogs being added each day (Technorati website, 2008).

    (I’m working on a journal article on using blogs in the classroom)

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  213. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM

    Char – How to be a successful freelance web designer strikes me.

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  214. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:41 PM

    For those who want to print their books, I discovered yesterday that many POD companies use the same printer, Lightning Source (LSI). From an article I read:

    “The reason both legitimate publishers and subsidy presses use Lightning Source is simple. LSI is owned by Ingram, which is the world’s largest wholesale book distributor. Getting your book into the Ingram database via LSI gets your book into Amazon and other online booksellers. It also means that bookstores can order your book, even if they don’t stock it on their shelves.”
    The article is here:
    http://newsletter.logicalexpressions.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=157

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  215. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:41 PM

    @Glenda Why are you having trouble with Amazon?

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  216. Marti says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

    Glenda, I used to have an Amazon storefront. As a storekeeper, I could list items even if they didn’t have an ISBN. But I am just too busy with caregiving right now to take care of it. It’s quite a bit of work to keep and mail the inventory of used books.

    Gotta run now – bye everyone!

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  217. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

    Marti,
    Sorry to see you go . . . thanks for coming!

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  218. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

    Bye Marti! The correct spelling of my name depends on the day of the week. πŸ™‚

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  219. Char says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:43 PM

    Liz & Rick – I guess those are things I just do, but never really considered writing an ebook about them.

    Now I have one more thing to add to my ever growing to-do list.

    Reply
  220. Keli Whidden says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:43 PM

    I do not…yet

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  221. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM

    Good morning from Makati, Liz and everyone in the room!

    Just checking in and will be reading the thread for a while… haven’t read or finished an ebook, can you believe that???

    Reply
  222. Keli Whidden says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM

    Bye Marti!

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  223. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM

    219,
    That growing list is what I want to talk with you about. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  224. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM

    Good morning, Meikah!

    Reply
  225. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM

    @Missy Keli at #220 doesn’t have a blog yet…maybe she would be a good reviewer for your ebook!

    Reply
  226. Carter says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:46 PM

    Gotta run for dinner..have fun!

    Reply
  227. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:46 PM

    Delaney, I’m so dizzy from going in circles with Amazon, I forget where I was. Its definitely not self-publisher friendly! Unless I’ve missed a back door.

    Reply
  228. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:46 PM

    Bye Carter!

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  229. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    Hi Meikah!

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  230. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    @Glenda I’m on Amazon and haven’t had any issues. Be glad to talk to you about it.

    Reply
  231. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM

    Hi folks. Sorry I’m late. We are trying to be healthier, so wife dragged me out for a couple of laps around the mall. (no ice cream either) Just got back a short bit ago. Going to start gathering things for my e-book.

    Reply
  232. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM

    Hi Todd!
    What are going to write it about?

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  233. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM

    Great Delaney, I’d really appreciate that. I had high hopes for Marketplace, but shipping for Canada, I’d lose money. Are you on twitter?

    Reply
  234. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:52 PM

    Hi Todd! Good for Sharon.

    Reply
  235. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM

    Liz,
    I’ve decided that since the service related posts are such a big hit, I’m going to work on a lessons learned book. I like my idea for a title, Time on the Pond, with a subtitle, Life Lessons from the Navy.

    Still a work in progress. At least I’ve got a couple posts thrown together in one page. Will work for an outline.

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  236. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM

    Hi Trisha,

    I think you were one of the first to comment and/or link on my BootsnAll Family Travel blog (thanks!) and I bet we did meet when I spoke last summer at BlogHer in Chicago.

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  237. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM

    Glenda, Thanks! We need it. πŸ™‚
    We are going to work a few angles. Again, it’s gotta be a life style change. Hardest ones to make.

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  238. SpaceAgeSage says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM

    Time for me to go. Thanks Liz and company!

    Reply
  239. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM

    Sheila,
    So glad to see the Every Dot Connects page on FB.

    Reply
  240. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM

    So what’s the recommended ebook for tonight? πŸ˜‰

    Liz, haven’t got the chance to get your ebook yet (._.)

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  241. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM

    Delaney:
    Blogs are incredibly popular for several reasons, but i think one main reason they have shot through the roof, in recent years is the fact that they are SEO magnets. Word is finally getting out, on how very powerful blogs are.

    Kelli:
    Hi, you can review my ebook anytime, but i must finish it first. LOL.

    Would love a review from you. (and anyone else, for that matter)

    Thanxs! for the lovely feedback, and ideas.

    Reply
  242. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM

    Bye, Carter. Bye, SpaceAgeSage. Hi Todd.

    Reply
  243. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:56 PM

    @Glenda yes on Twitter. DelaneyKirk

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  244. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:56 PM

    Todd,
    Wow! Do you see how well thought that looks written out like that?

    Reply
  245. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM

    You can do it, Todd. Let me know what kind of support you need. Hugs.

    Reply
  246. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM

    Thanks Liz!

    Thank you Glenda. Will be sure to keep you posted.

    Reply
  247. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM

    By the way, i am m38967 on Twitter. New followers welcome.

    http://twitter.com/m38967

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  248. Connie Bensen says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM

    Hi everyone,
    I was called over in two ways! πŸ™‚ Are you still talking. (this reminds me of Plurk’s format)

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  249. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM

    @WendyPerrin just figured out how to tweet from her cell phone, thanks to a link I put on Facebook to a Sunday newspaper article that had me in the “Austin Twitter Starter Pack.”

    I love the Long Tail!

    Sorry, totally irrelevant to ebooks….

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  250. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:01 PM

    Delaney – Is this the Amazon program you use for selling your books there?

    http://advantage.amazon.com/gp/vendor/public/join-advantage-books

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  251. Connie Bensen says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:01 PM

    My favorite ebooks on social media are listed here with links http://conniebensen.com/blog/resources/

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  252. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM

    Missy,
    Talk more using the @ sign to reach individuals on twitter directly. The ratio of conversation to posting links is off. πŸ™‚

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  253. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM

    I have ebooks but mostly on web design and web programming, SEO, and the Getting Things Done by David Allen. Here’s the link: http://www.ebooks.com/ebooks/book_display.asp?IID=254891

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  254. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM

    PS,
    I just followed you. πŸ˜‰

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  255. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM

    Rick, Yes! Just mailed Amazon another 9 books today.

    Reply
  256. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM

    wow Delaney!

    Reply
  257. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM

    wow, nine books, Delaney? We definitely need to talk.

    Reply
  258. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM

    #251
    Hey Connie!
    Welcome. Love the list behind that link!

    Reply
  259. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:09 PM

    I don’t do print on demand so have a closet full of books to sell. Highly motivating! Good news is that I’m on my 3rd printing.

    Reply
  260. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:10 PM

    Sheila:
    I have yet to figure out how to tweet from my phone. (so shameful) Im about to get stoned now. (covers head)

    Liz:
    Thanxs for the follow, i found you and Delaney and Marti. Cool you’re from Chicago. (my hometown) Love those Cubbies! They’re doing good this year, too. Finally!

    Reply
  261. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:10 PM

    Thanks for being an Every Dot Connects fan, Todd!

    Hmmm, we ought to write a social media marketing ebook, come to think of it….I’ll tell Connie Reece that I volunteered her for the first three chapters. πŸ™‚

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  262. Char says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:11 PM

    Liz – did you get my email? What time works for you?

    Question for all – what is the ideal length for an ebook?

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  263. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM

    Missed Missy’s @ name. Please repost.

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  264. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM

    Aww, Missy, I don’t use my cell phone for Twitter at all, either, I just use it straight from the Web. Only one in my family with unlimited texting is my teen daughter.

    Reply
  265. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:13 PM

    Congratulations, Delaney! Having stock is a great motivator to selling. πŸ™‚

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  266. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:14 PM

    Missy – Don’t feel bad. I’m antisocial and don’t twitter at all. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  267. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM

    <—- only tweets from Twhirl or the web.

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  268. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:16 PM

    Hi Char!
    I’m shooting for 9:30 your time, maybe earlier.

    I think 64 pages is about right. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  269. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:18 PM

    Rick:
    Lol. But you can’t be anti-social, you’re on here socializing. You’re having an off day, it seems. Maybe tommorrow you will be anti-social again.

    Todd:
    I’m @m38967 on Twitter. If that’s what you meant.

    Reply
  270. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:19 PM

    64 pgs will seem less daunting when I’m at 60 I’m sure. Ha.

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  271. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:20 PM

    [please turn off the oven. I’m now well done. Oy]

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  272. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM

    Aw Todd, I bet you’re putting about three pages worth on every sheet. πŸ™‚

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  273. --Deb says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM

    Hi. I’ve read bunches of ebooks, some better than others, and am right now writing one of my own. (Like how many other people??)

    Reply
  274. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM

    Sheila – I never actually got to a blogher conference – I think we just talked on the site.

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  275. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM

    Todd,
    Those two blog posts at the end are 3 pages at least!

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  276. Sheila Scarborough says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    Gotta run and get kiddos and parents to bed.

    64 pages, eh? My brain is churning!

    Thanks for this, Liz….

    Reply
  277. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    Liz. Let’s hope so. I’m just going to throw old blog posts into the pot and then start working out from there. Honestly just started. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  278. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    I twit sometimes, but I think I’m addicted to Plurk hahaha

    Reply
  279. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    Todd, take it one page, one sentence at a time. Besides, Liz didn’t say what size the pages are!

    Reply
  280. Trisha says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    ok, time for me to go. I’ve had an exhausting and overwhelming night!

    Reply
  281. Char says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM

    Sounds good Liz.

    Have to call it a night. My brain is quickly turning to mush.

    Reply
  282. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM

    Good point about pages. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  283. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM

    @Deb Do you ever read Ken Davis at http://www.manageyourwriting.com ? You might have some interests in common.

    Reply
  284. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM

    Bye Trisha, Sheila. Hi –Deb. What’s you ebook on?

    Reply
  285. --Deb says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM

    Delaney–no, I’ve missed that one, but I do read “Men with Pens” and bunches of others…

    Reply
  286. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM

    Todd/Glenda. You write your book by taking it “Bird by Bird” (have you read this book on writing by Anne Lamont?)

    Reply
  287. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM

    bye, Trisha! Bye, Sheila! bye, Char!

    Reply
  288. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM

    I read somewhere 100 pages, is good enough. But im sure, it varies. There is no right answer here.

    I’m off to put the cats to bed. See ya all again soon, maybe here.

    Is this open mic done every week?

    Reply
  289. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM

    Check it out. I’m on an iPhone app.

    St. Louis Zoo
    http://www.schmap.com/?m=iphone#uid=stlouis&sid=all_sights&p=243534&i=243534_12

    Reply
  290. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    Good night, Missy!
    Great to meet you!!

    Reply
  291. stephentrepreneur says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    My pleasure Liz. Thanks for opening this ‘train of thought’. I wrote a new whole article on this one subject!

    Reply
  292. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    Hey Liz, do you have a banner for SOBCON 2009? I’d like a copy so I can post it again on CustServ πŸ˜‰

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  293. Rick Cockrum says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    And I’m off, too. Have a good day, everyone.

    Good night, Liz. Thank you for a wonderful, and inspirational, evening. I needed this.

    Reply
  294. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM

    Delaney, no I haven’t read that book, but it does sound familiar.

    Reply
  295. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM

    G’nitey, Rick! πŸ™‚

    Reply
  296. --Deb says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM

    My ebook? On writing efficiently. It’s still in the first-draft stage and only about 3000 words at the moment–but considering I only started writing it on Sunday, that’s not bad, right?

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  297. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM

    Thank you, Stephen,
    Always great to get a blog post out of an experience. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  298. stephentrepreneur says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM

    My pleasure Liz. Thanks for opening this ΓƒΒ’Γ’Β‚Β¬Γ‹Βœtrain of thoughtÒ҂¬Ò„’. I wrote a new whole article on this one subject!

    Reply
  299. stephentrepreneur says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM

    Sorry about the double comment, previous one didn’t work!

    Reply
  300. Missy says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM

    Liz, Delaney, Todd, Sheila (everyone else):
    Thank You. Good night!

    Reply
  301. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM

    Deb,
    That’s a great start.

    I find the whole process works much more quickly if you plan your ideas first. Is that what you’re writing about?

    Reply
  302. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM

    Planning and preparation I think are key to any significant endeavor. But sometimes it’s about shoveling. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  303. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM

    Good start Deb. I find it best just to get it out of your head and on paper. You can organize it later.

    Reply
  304. --Deb says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM

    Liz, in fact, it IS! The rough title is “Roadmap for Efficient Writing” and the whole point is to plan for what you want to write. It’s like writing about how to use a keyboard–doing and explaining at the same time (grin).

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  305. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:38 PM

    Deb,
    I’ve been writing for a while, I’m glad to hear you say that. I’d hate to think that only now I’ve found the efficiencies that I used were the wrong one.

    Reply
  306. Delaney Kirk says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:38 PM

    Liz, Todd, Glenda, Deb…anyone else? It’s getting late here in Florida so I’ll say goodnight.

    Reply
  307. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:40 PM

    Good night, Delaney,
    Thanks for bringing your insights and experience to the conversation. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  308. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    OK. I’m wilted right now. I’m dropping out of this conversation for tonight, but you might can still catch me online if you try. πŸ™‚
    Been great following all of this conversation and inspiriation.

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  309. --Deb says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Liz, well, what’s efficient for one person might not be for another, but at least I can try to point the way (grin).

    And, yes, it’s getting late in NJ, too. I wish I’d gotten here earlier!

    Reply
  310. ME Liz Strauss says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:42 PM

    Seems like a good time to tell everyone “Good night!”

    Sweet dreams all!!

    Reply
  311. --Deb says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:43 PM

    You too, every one!

    Reply
  312. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM

    Nite Todd.

    Reply
  313. Rick Wolff says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:45 PM

    This is too late for anybody but maybe Liz herself (yourself). I ordered this book that will teach me how to put all kinds of features and media into a PDF, for a sort of super eBook. Might be really interesting. I’m thinking of just doing a sort of capabilities book, and let it go viral.

    Reply
  314. Todd Jordan says

    August 5, 2008 at 9:52 PM

    PS Thanks again Liz for hosting. πŸ™‚

    Reply
  315. Glenda Watson Hyatt says

    August 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM

    the sun is going down, time to move now that its beginning to cool down. Night all. Thanks Liz.

    Reply
  316. Keli Whidden says

    August 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM

    Thanks Liz and all, sorry I missed the good nights!

    Reply
  317. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM

    hmmm.. I posted something but it didn’t come out?

    Is anybody still around ;))

    Reply
  318. Meikah Delid says

    August 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM

    Oh well, got to get going, too. Time for lunch here πŸ™‚

    Take care everyone! *hugz*

    Reply
  319. Easton Ellsworth says

    August 6, 2008 at 10:58 PM

    Here to tuck anyone in who needs tucking. Dream of glimmering ebooks. Thanks to Liz for enabling so many dreams for so many dreamers.

    Reply

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