May 29, 2014

The Whuffie Factor, Five Years Later – Interview with Tara Hunt

published this at 6:28 am

Last week, in my Internet travels, I stumbled across a reference to Whuffie.

No, Whuffie is not a cleaning product.

The Whuffie Factor, by Tara Hunt, was published in April 2009, when we were all talking about “Web 2.0″ and Captain “Sully” Sullenberger. If you didn’t pick up this seminal book five years ago, you should go grab a copy now. Its advice is still very relevant today. Among other things, Tara predicted the rise of subscription music services, content marketing, and many of the reputation-building ideas that are now canon.

Tara Hunt hasn’t relaxed over the last few years, moving from co-founding the groundbreaking Citizen Agency to her current position as Social Digital Leader at MSLGROUP, and helping her clients build relationships along the way. As a long-time participant and builder of online communities, Tara exemplifies the principles she advocates…she walks the walk. When I randomly reached out via Twitter, she was right there and ready to share her thoughts about how things have evolved over the last five years.

The Whuffie Factor

Itís been five years since you wrote The Whuffie Factor. What do you think has been the biggest business shift during that time?

Has it already been five years?! I canít believe how much time flies. The biggest business shift during this time has been the overall adoption of social media into the marketing mix. There are very few companies that donít do anything at all online. The issue now is that everyone is using social media tools, but very few are actually using them truly socially. I see too many examples of companies putting the same kind of content on social networks as they would have placed in traditional media. ďHere are our product benefits!Ē ďOur product is awesome!Ē ďYou should try our product!Ē The medium has changed, but the strategy has not.

Do you think itís more difficult now to build Whuffie?

The bar is definitely higher now to build Whuffie, because brands are competing with their own customers for trust and attention. In the beauty space, the amateur YouTuber has hundreds of thousands (and even millions) of subscribers who hang on their every word while the huge beauty brands with their enormous budgets are still struggling to get any engagement. They try to pay for it, but itís fleeting. Individuals understand how to build Whuffie because every relationship is important to them Ė especially when they are starting out Ė but brands are still thinking in terms of mass market. They donít know how to invest in one relationship at a time. They are so used to buying a large number of views. They donít realize that those individual relationships are worth so much more in the long run than a paid view. Itís a matter of valuing the wrong metric.

That being said, the bar is still set pretty low for brands and we celebrate brands that even partially understand this. So, I guess it isnít more difficult to build Whuffie, itís just still a foreign concept.

Is Whuffie like Fight Club (i.e., if you have Whuffie, you donít talk about Whuffie)?

Hah! Itís more like being cool. Cool people (and brands) donít say they are cool. They just are. If I went around bragging that I have 50,000 followers, people would wonder how valuable that audience really is.

Online communities are a hot topic right now; are you surprised itís taken this long for everyone to wake up to the value of community?

Yes and no. Iím surprised because it has seemed obvious to me for nearly 15 years, but Iím not surprised because Iíve worked with so many clients over the years who need to see where something is going before they are willing to invest in it. The bigger the company, the more risk-averse they are to trying Ďunprovení techniques. They have more at stake. They have to report to shareholders and employ leagues of people who count on them to grow the company. I understand that. However, Iíve seen so many examples of companies who win time and time again because they are willing to take a leap of faith. Everyone who waits to watch the results, then jumps in are shrugged off as late adopters.

When I went back to re-read The Whuffie Factor, I expected to find a lot of material that would need to be updated or tweaked because so much has changed in five years, but itís surprisingly evergreen advice. What would you update if you were going to publish a revised edition?

You know, that is wonderful to hear! I get tweets from people all of the time that they just finished reading TWF and got so much out of it and I usually answer, ďReally?Ē LOL. I shouldnít be surprised, though, because core principles are core principles and thatís why I wrote it to be more of a business philosophy/strategy book than a business tactic book. If I was to publish an updated edition, I have hundreds of new examples to underscore the basic premise that brands should be focused on building Whuffie and not likes/followers. The examples I used were tiny compared to what has happened.

Would you like to shout-out any companies or brands that are ďWhuffie-richĒ right now? It looks like Threadless (which you highlighted in the book) has done a great job of keeping its Whuffie going.

Threadless keeps it going because being truly social is in their DNA. There are lots of new upstarts like Dollar Shave Club, Hello Flo, Uber and AirBnB that also have social in their DNA. They arenít afraid of it. They embrace it and gain loads of Whuffie. But there are also some bigger companies that are impressing me. Chipotle has done an amazing job of building Whuffie in a crowded fast food market. Burberry, under Angela Ahrendts took all sorts of risks as a luxury brand to become more social and digital and it paid off in winning a whole new generation of buyers. There are multiple luxury brands who are winning over new generations of buyers and seeing it pay off handsomely like Chanel, Donna Karen, and Diane von Furstenberg. On the food side, Red Bull and Oreo are killing it with their focus on engaging social content. Red Bull sees themselves as a creative content shop that happens to sell an energy drink. What the Whuffie-rich examples all have in common? They focus on the customer, not on themselves.

You predicted the rise of music subscription services (monthly fee for unlimited downloads). Are you using Rdio, Spotify, Pandora, or Beats Music yourself?

Did I? Yay me! (I know that I should remember that!) Iím using multiple services: Focus@will, Rdio, Spotify, and more. Plus, itís moved into video. We watch everything via streamed service and havenít had cable in eons. And for magazines, Iím using NextIssue.

I see youíre writing a report about Furry Influencers. Can pets have Whuffie?

HahahaÖ.yes. It seems from my research, they can have a WHOLE LOT OF WHUFFIE. Itís serious business now. These Furry Influencers are signing six-figure deals and hitting more red carpets than some of the traditional human celebrities. There is all sorts of amazing psychology behind this, but in many ways this breaks the authenticity rule. We all understand that it isnít Líil Bub or Boo the Pomeranian who is behind the keyboard or camera phone, but we listen to them anyway. We are reeled in because we love the content (adorable animals satisfy our dopamine addiction), then we find out about pet brands from them. I subscribed to BarkBox because of Manny the Frenchieís Instagramming his monthly box. There is actually research that cuteness can make us more indulgent. This is dangerous!

If you’d like to connect with Tara, you can find her at or as @missrogue on Twitter.

Author’s Bio: Rosemary OíNeill is an insightful spirit who works for social strata — a top ten company to work for on the Internet . Check out the Social Strata blog. You can find Rosemary on Google+ and on Twitter as @rhogroupee

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3 Comments to “The Whuffie Factor, Five Years Later – Interview with Tara Hunt”

  1. May 29th, 2014 at 11:07 am
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  2. May 31st, 2014 at 6:34 am
    Ed Weisberg said


    Great interview. The recognition of Whuffle just keeps getting stronger. For more insights on whuffle, take a look at a blog entry that I wrote back in 2009 as well.

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